Scoring shorthanded goals is all well and good, but it doesn`t prove how good a penalty killer a player is. The mark of a good penalty killer is how few goals were scored against them. Getting shorthanded goals doesn`t help if you`re giving up a ton of goals.
Let`s look at how many PPG were scored against those teams when those players were on the ice:
Mario Lemieux, 1988-89 - 60
Wayne Gretzky, 1983-84 - 31
Wayne Gretzky, 1984-85 - 37
Lemieux`s season, with all those shorthanded goals, still looks less impressive than Gretzky`s.
all it shows is that the oilers were a much better team than the '89 pens, and less penalized. you can't compare their quality of penalty killing based on TEAM numbers. it's kind of sad that you guys bring gretzky into every discussion to try and put down lemieux.
I'll take Lemieux's record. I don't think it'll be broken for a long time. (Not that Kerr's will, either).
However, I will say this: when I think of the great power play forwards of all time, Tim Kerr immediately comes to mind. He was virtually unstoppable in front of the net, with his strength, hands and awesome reach. When I think of the great penalty killers of all time, Mario Lemieux is nowhere near the top.