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Ukrainian clusterfrak part 10 - Fascists accuse others of being fascist

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05-22-2014, 11:24 AM
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Well, it's coming from you, so it must be true.

In other words, source please?


Working overtime ?


Dude, shouldn't you be shilling over the carbon tax thread I men ahem "global warming hoax"?


Maybe their looking for Sokil's replacement.

Have you no shame?

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05-22-2014, 11:53 AM
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There's multiple videos on this ; including a video from yesterday where the soldiers explain why they refused to attack the civilians.

I am from my phone but I will post the source later.
Do you have proof that this is coming from the Ukrainian government (facebook doesn't count) or are you talking out of your ass again, as usual?

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Horrible news coming from Ukraine.

As Russian troops have withdrawn from the border, it seems like some people feel they can do whatever they want now.

A group of Ukrainian soldiers, part of 51 st brigade refused to engage with the civilians yesterday and remained at their check point.

This morning, a group of people attacked them killing at least 15 and wounding more than 30.

Lugansk militia denied their involvement in it. All points to some mercenaries hired by Kolomiysky as these bandits came in vans with privat bank logo.

There it is guys, the junta is killing their own soldiers now for refusing to kill the civilians
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Pro-Russia insurgents have attacked a military checkpoint in eastern Ukraine, reportedly killing at least 13 troops and wounding more than 30.

The attack, near the town of Volnovakha, comes three days before a key presidential vote and is the deadliest so far in weeks of fighting.

A rebel group who claimed responsibility for it said one of their own was also killed.
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In the town of Horlivka, a masked rebel commander claimed responsibility for the raid and showed off a hoard of seized Ukrainian weapons including automatic and sniper rifles and rocket grenade launchers.

"We destroyed a checkpoint of the fascist Ukrainian army deployed on the land the Donetsk Republic," said the commander, who wore a balaclava and identified himself by his nom de guerre, "Bes," which is Russian for "demon."
http://news.sky.com/story/1267027/uk...oldiers-killed

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This is why it's impossible to believe anything ViD ever says.

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05-22-2014, 12:17 PM
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Working overtime ?


Dude, shouldn't you be shilling over the carbon tax thread I men ahem "global warming hoax"?


Maybe their looking for Sokil's replacement.

Have you no shame?
Indeed. Damn it, I don't know why I have to be so skeptical, y'know? I should just accept everyone's claims just because. You know, like idiots do.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...for-mayor.html


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The Ukrainian Internet Party candidate for Kiev and Odessa mayor known as Darth Vader continued his electoral campaign in Kiev, declaring his intention to save Ukraine from 20 years of chaos.
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His bid was rejected by the central electoral commission but he was later formally registered to run for mayor of Kiev and Odessa. He then set about to win the electorate by uploading several promotional videos and touring Kiev and Odessa.

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05-22-2014, 12:36 PM
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Indeed. Damn it, I don't know why I have to be so skeptical, y'know? I should just accept everyone's claims just because. You know, like idiots do.

Ok understood ..
Why does one have to choose sides here?

One can observe from afar and with ones own research can figure out what's true not propaganda bs from both sides.

Especially the load of bovine excrement that msm media unleashes on the sheep.

Or doesn't ?


Like the Odessa massacre.

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That clown was talking BS? I'm SHOCKED

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Ok understood ..
Why does one have to choose sides here?

One can observe from afar and with ones own research can figure out what's true not propaganda bs from both sides.
Except not all research is equal.

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Especially the load of bovine excrement that msm media unleashes on the sheep.

Or doesn't ?


Like the Odessa massacre.
The "MSM" produces some bullshit, definitely, but not all of it is. One just needs to understand how to filter out the bullshi for the accurate reports. The key should be comparing what information is published by all sources and what is being reported as "anonymously sourced" by only a handful or single source.

But then, you're a conspiracy theorist, so you probably believe all the "MSM" is colluding to produce their reports. Which is funny because your likely blog sources (assuming your method of "thinking" is critical enough to even have more than one of those) could just as likely be colluding with each other to give you their false news, too.

PS. The last "m" in MSM is "media", so "msm media" is redundant, you moran.

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Except not all research is equal.



The "MSM" produces some bullshit, definitely, but not all of it is. One just needs to understand how to filter out the bullshi for the accurate reports. The key should be comparing what information is published by all sources and what is being reported as "anonymously sourced" by only a handful or single source.

But then, you're a conspiracy theorist, so you probably believe all the "MSM" is colluding to produce their reports. Which is funny because your likely blog sources (assuming your method of "thinking" is critical enough to even have more than one of those) could just as likely be colluding with each other to give you their false news, too.

PS. The last "m" in MSM is "media", so "msm media" is redundant, you moran.

Moran?

Moi?

That's funny that's how I feel anyone believes the lies "official story on 9/11".


See how fast they all colluded on Bin Laden was at fault.

Later they saying he had nothing to do with 9/11.

It's ok keep believing all the crap msn spews out.

Agenda was wars in Iraq Afghanistan Libya Eqypt coups
Based on lies.


Sheesh don't you have questions? or doubts?

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05-22-2014, 01:28 PM
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Take your medication, please.

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05-22-2014, 01:31 PM
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Moran?

Moi?

That's funny that's how I feel anyone believes the lies "official story on 9/11".
That's actually a compliment. Thanks.

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See how fast they all colluded on Bin Laden was at fault.
Maybe because he was?

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Later they saying he had nothing to do with 9/11.
Uh, what? Who is "they"?

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It's ok keep believing all the crap msn spews out.
What does MicroSoft have to do with any of this?

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Agenda was wars in Iraq Afghanistan Libya Eqypt coups
Based on lies.
Moran.

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Sheesh don't you have questions? or doubts?
I did, but then I learned basic physics and those doubts subsided.

Then I heard all the truther arguments and my doubts disappeared completely.

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The Right Sector is now officially registered as a political party.
...all the while, Kiev is aiming to ban the communist party (2.7 million Ukrainian voters).

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Have you no shame?
Have you no brains? Oh wait, we already know the answer to that one.

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Moran?

Moi?

That's funny that's how I feel anyone believes the lies "official story on 9/11".


See how fast they all colluded on Bin Laden was at fault.

Later they saying he had nothing to do with 9/11.

It's ok keep believing all the crap msn spews out.

Agenda was wars in Iraq Afghanistan Libya Eqypt coups
Based on lies.


Sheesh don't you have questions? or doubts?
Your insanity is reaching Leafs fan level of insanity. In fact I think all the Russian here are actually closet Leafs fans considering how deluded they are.

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Here is RT's analyses of the attack with the conclusions.

http://rt.com/news/160804-military-c...ttack-ukraine/

Either way...what a ****ing cluster ****!

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Your insanity is reaching Leafs fan level of insanity. In fact I think all the Russian here are actually closet Leafs fans considering how deluded they are.
I'm a Leaf fan and I support this message.

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These are the guys who go attacked a day before the attack.


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Here is the video of their outpost being attacked by helicopters. The soldiers are saying that the helicopters aren't theirs and they have taken coordinated and targeted fire to their positions. Two Mi-24 and a Mi-8.


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Helicopter is Ukrainian according to the roundel.


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Apparently this happened an hour after the initial attack after firefighters were helping Ukrainian soldiers put out the fires.

Btw that tactic the helicopters were using is an Afghanistan tactic. Get low, run a line with machine guns, deploy flares and bank.

Those pops you are hearing before the helos come is ammo cooking off.

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Some car tries to get through what looks like a Ukrainian army block post. Doesn't end too well for the vehicle.


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So it seems like it was two events. DPR folks came in a stolen Green Private Bank Armored car that is often used by Nat Guard private armies and got into a gun battle with the Ukrainian army at the checkpoint with The Ukrainian army taking a few casualties, then the Ukrainian helos come and kill more Ukrainian army in a friendly fire incident.

What a cluster ****!

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This is why it's impossible to believe anything ViD ever says.
well, sure, if the separatists now have helicopters in their possession, then yeah

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Meanwhile, a Ukrainian army major, who spoke to the survivors of the attack, told the BBC on condition of anonymity that he was sure that the attackers weren’t from the Donetsk self-defense forces, but were “mercenaries.”

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