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Ryan O'Reilly offer sheet from calgary again ???

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05-22-2014, 08:22 PM
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The Flames are not giving up a top 5 pick + for Ryan O'reilly, especially when Barzal, Strome, Hanifin, McDavid and Eichel are on the board.

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05-22-2014, 08:30 PM
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What is compensation if ROR signs?

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burke is NOT THE GM. GOD LOOK THINGS UP .
I have internet sources that confirm Burke is indeed the GM of the Calgary Flames.

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What is compensation if ROR signs?
Well, that would depend what is offered. If a team offer-sheets ROR for 5 years at 7 million per year for example, it's 2 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd. If it's 7 years at 7 million however it's 4 1sts.

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Well, that would depend what is offered. If a team offer-sheets ROR for 5 years at 7 million per year for example, it's 2 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd. If it's 7 years at 7 million however it's 4 1sts.
But if it's 7 years, it's 4 1sts. I don't see any way ROR signs an offer sheet that's less than the 4 1sts compensation.

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[mod] whatever his position is


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Death, taxes and the flames will offer sheet ROR every year till forever

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05-22-2014, 11:41 PM
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He's defiantly not worth what compensation we would lose and most likely won't be worth the money it would take to make it happen. I wouldn't give up the flames 2015 1st alone for him considering it will most likely be a top 5 pick in a great draft.

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05-22-2014, 11:44 PM
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Wasn't ROR going to have to pass through waivers if Calgary had gotten him anyways?

... That would've been the dumbest transaction of the century. Sign a guy to an offer sheet and give up the whopping compensation only to have him never play for your team.

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05-22-2014, 11:45 PM
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But if it's 7 years, it's 4 1sts. I don't see any way ROR signs an offer sheet that's less than the 4 1sts compensation.
For less then ~6.5M you only have to give up a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Less then 8.5M is 2 firsts, 2nd and 3rd

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Well, that would depend what is offered. If a team offer-sheets ROR for 5 years at 7 million per year for example, it's 2 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd. If it's 7 years at 7 million however it's 4 1sts.
It makes 0 difference if he signs for 1 year or 7 years, it's average caphit over the life of the contract that counts

Here is last year's returns


$1,110,249 or below - No Compensation
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 - 3rd round pick
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 - 2nd round pick
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 - 1st round pick, 3rd
Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 - 1st round pick, 2nd, 3rd
Over $6,728,781 To $8,410,976 - Two 1st Round Picks, 2nd, 3rd
Over $8,410,976 - Four 1st Round Picks

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Clearly Click-Bait, no one would offer-sheet ROR.
The compensation is too much for what you're getting; I do see him as a trade-able asset, and if he's there, Calgary would be a suitor.

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05-22-2014, 11:49 PM
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Clearly Click-Bait, no one would offer-sheet ROR.
The compensation is too much for what you're getting; I do see him as a trade-able asset, and if he's there, Calgary would be a suitor.
1st 2nd and 3rd isn't that much if you are a team that looks like they won't finish bottom 10

My guess is the Avs take O'Reilly to arbitration to avoid people offer sheeting him

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1st 2nd and 3rd isn't that much if you are a team that looks like they won't finish bottom 10

My guess is the Avs take O'Reilly to arbitration to avoid people offer sheeting him
Another 1 year contract. Smart move.

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Another 1 year contract. Smart move.
Whether the deal is 1 year 6.5M or 7 years 45.5M(averaging 6.5M a year) the compensation is 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

In the case of arbitration it just prevents people from offering sheeting O'Reilly(and gives Colorado a month to negotiate a contract with him)

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For less then ~6.5M you only have to give up a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Less then 8.5M is 2 firsts, 2nd and 3rd



It makes 0 difference if he signs for 1 year or 7 years, it's average caphit over the life of the contract that counts

Here is last year's returns


$1,110,249 or below - No Compensation
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 - 3rd round pick
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 - 2nd round pick
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 - 1st round pick, 3rd
Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 - 1st round pick, 2nd, 3rd
Over $6,728,781 To $8,410,976 - Two 1st Round Picks, 2nd, 3rd
Over $8,410,976 - Four 1st Round Picks
It's funny how confident you are and hilarious that you're wrong. Compensation is determined by taking the total amount of money offered and dividing it by the number of years offered or five, whatever is less. As I said , a 7 year 7 million per year contract has an average of 49 million. As 5 is smaller than 7, you then divide 49 million by 5. 49/5=9.8m average which equals 4 1st round picks. If you're still so confident you're right(you're not) I'll happily dig up proof tomorrow when I get to a computer.


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Another 1 year contract. Smart move.
since he is more than 1 year from free agency it would likely be another 2 year contract. ROR has also never signed a 1 year contract so far in his career.

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No, don't think it will happen. Burke isn't that stupid. The draft picks required are worth more then ROR to a team like Calgary.

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I would love for Burke to offer sheet a team..

After the hissy-fit in Anaheim over Penner, it would be hypocritical.

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I hope Columbus signs Johansen before Calgary tries these shenanigans.
Now thats an offer sheet waiting to happen.

After Colorado matched the last sheet, can't see anyone trying unless he really wants out.

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I hope Columbus signs Johansen before Calgary tries these shenanigans.
Now thats an offer sheet waiting to happen.

After Colorado matched the last sheet, can't see anyone trying unless he really wants out.

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I would love for Burke to offer sheet a team..

After the hissy-fit in Anaheim over Penner, it would be hypocritical.
Burke isn't against offer sheets. He hated the Penner and Vanek offersheets because it gave RFAs UFA money. It was harder to retain RFA at cheaper contracts after. He had no problem with the offer sheets before those two, the one Kesler signed with Philidelphia for example.

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I hope Columbus signs Johansen before Calgary tries these shenanigans.
Ditto for Lehner.

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Clearly Click-Bait, no one would offer-sheet ROR.
The compensation is too much for what you're getting; I do see him as a trade-able asset, and if he's there, Calgary would be a suitor.
You mean like Calgary did, just last offseason?

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Now thats an offer sheet waiting to happen.

After Colorado matched the last sheet, can't see anyone trying unless he really wants out.
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Now thats an offer sheet waiting to happen.

After Colorado matched the last sheet, can't see anyone trying unless he really wants out.
Why did you post the same exact thing 16 minutes apart?

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Burke is against doing it out of the blue. He'll try and work out a trade first, and if that doesnt work, tell the other GM hes going to do it before hand
So two 1sts and a 2nd for O'Reilly then.

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Burke isn't against offer sheets. He hated the Penner and Vanek offersheets because it gave RFAs UFA money. It was harder to retain RFA at cheaper contracts after. He had no problem with the offer sheets before those two, the one Kesler signed with Philidelphia for example.
He hated the Penner offer sheet because it happened to him.

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Ditto for Lehner.



You mean like Calgary did, just last offseason?





Why did you post the same exact thing 16 minutes apart?
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