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05-21-2014, 07:41 PM
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Reflecting back on Alexei Cherepanov

With a couple of days here during games in the playoffs, I was just reflecting back on our Rangers and alot of our guys who came through the system and I couldnt help but think about the 'Siberian Express', Cherepanov.

I remember how I was in college and I was jumping up and down when he fell to us at #17 in the 1st round and Sather picked him up. I cannot believe its been already over 5 years since his death.

It still tears me up inside as I see alot of our young guys come up...I always imagine how amazing he'd look out there with Stepan and Kreider. That speed !!!

I made this video 7 months prior to his death a bit after we drafted and have shared it on the forum (it's been years so not sure if people remember it)...But watching him play still gives me goosebumps.



Not sure if people still think about Alexei, in Russia and international hockey he is very much remembered. On wiki, it states his legacy in years after his death...Even as recent as last year a tournament was held in his honor

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Shortly after Cherepanov's death, Avangard Omsk retired his #7 jersey in a ceremony prior to a game against Dynamo Minsk, with his parents in the crowd. The KHL renamed its Rookie of the Year award the "Alexei Cherepanov Award" starting in 2009. An Under-20 tournament, held in August 2013, was dedicated to his memory. The tournament featured 6 teams including two Russian clubs, and national sides from Great Britain, Poland, Belarus and host Lithuania.

The KHL examined their policies immediately following Cherepanov's death, particularly as concerns were raised about the effectiveness of the emergency response. New regulations were enacted requiring that two ambulances be present at every KHL game. They also called on the Russian government to enforce minimum standards for the equipment on ambulances. The league also instituted a program that would allow key personnel to have access to a standard set of medical information about all players in the league, dubbed a "medical passport."

After his death, the New York Rangers sought compensation in the form of an extra draft pick from the NHL. As Cherepanov had not agreed to terms with the club at the time of his death, the team claimed that he was technically eligible to be selected in the 2009 NHL Entry Draft, and they were entitled to compensation. The team was eventually awarded the 17th selection of the second round in the 2009 draft, after the Rangers' proposal was approved by the rest of the league. NHL general managers also voted to adopt a rule change, dubbed the "Cherepanov rule" that would see any future teams receive compensation if a prospect dies before signing a contract
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Also wanted to point out that drafting Alexei as a Ranger still remains one of my biggest highlights as a fan.

Anyone have any thoughts about the kid these days?

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RIP Cherry. Damn he could've been the one this franchise needed.

I've heard people compare Buchnevich to Cherry, anyone have thoughts on that?

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What coulda been, obviously this team would be very different if he made an impact here, probably a totally different roster. Could've been a 30+ goal scorer, could've been a bust. We'll never know.

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What coulda been, obviously this team would be very different if he made an impact here, probably a totally different roster. Could've been a 30+ goal scorer, could've been a bust. We'll never know.
He was 17/18 and was doing really well in the KHL...So I dont think he would have gone Zherdev or some other soft Russian on us here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Cherepanov

His stats show he was rapidly improving as a player in the season he died

15 GP, 13 pts at that point.

In the KHL playoffs he had 8 points in 10 games at 17 years of age and he just owned everyone on international play

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Beyond the Rangers aspect, just such a sad story. RIP.

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Nicknamed the Siberian Express, Cherepanov was in his third season with Avangard, in Siberia. In his rookie season in the Russian Superleague, Cherepanov had more points than Evgeni Malkin, Alexander Ovechkin, and Ilya Kovalchuk did respectively, at the age of 17. Cherepanov beat the Russian league rookie goal scoring record previously held by Pavel Bure.

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He's still my avatar and will remain so. I was more excited for him as a prospect than I've been for any other prospect we've drafted. He seemed like he would be that stud, home-grown player we've all been waiting for. Maybe he wouldn't have lived up to the billing, who knows, but I would have loved to watch him play for the Rangers.

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He was an impact player, I believe that he would have lived up to the homegrown superstar hype (30-40 goals; ppg player). He had it all; the speed, the hands, the shot, and imo he had the hockey iq to put it all together and be something special.

He was only 19, he was just a kid living his dream and his life was cut short. Just think about that for a second, 19, he was so young and his life was full of such potential and in a blink of an eye it is over.


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Just Imagine

Kreider
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Cheri

..in the same line up. Still get choked up about this. Thanks Poe.

RIP Cherri

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RIP Cherri. He'd have been a hell of a player for us right now.

The thing that pisses me off a lot was the idiotic fan reaction when we got the comp pick. The pure nastiness from some.

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RIP Cherri. He'd have been a hell of a player for us right now.

The thing that pisses me off a lot was the idiotic fan reaction when we got the comp pick. The pure nastiness from some.
The comp pick has basically turned into Oscar Lindberg because we drafted Werek with that pick and traded him to Phoenix.

Dont recall the nastiness on the comp pick, what happened?

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I had a mini-existential crisis when I turned 20 last year because I was drunkenly debating hockey with my friend and we started talking about how Cherry died when he was 19.

Really sad stuff. He had such a bright future.


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I just remember all the positive things Jagr had to say about him. Got me really excited.

Jagr talking about him:

- Rumours about the informal guardianship that you’ve taken over Alexei Cherepanov constantly appear in the press. Alexei himself has now scored in successive games. Confess — is it your work? Has it already come to the point that you’d recommend Avangard’s “Number 7″ to the national team?

- To Team Russia? Without question! Certainly Cherepanov is worthy of playing there. He just needs to be given the chance. Whether it’s my schooling… (smiles) Yes, he plays very well. He works skillfully with the puck, thinks quickly and shoots hard. That, probably, is his main advantage — a first class shot. He’s fast, but very strong. It’s not surprising that he scores many goals.

Cherepanov talking about Jagr:

Cherepanov was excited about the opportunity of playing with one of his great role models. Jagr saw the youngster’s raw talent and instantly started to work with Cherepanov on an individual basis. In his blog, Cherepanov wrote about his relationship with the Czech sniper. “I generally consider him as my fourth coach. He always gives me advice when something doesn’t work out. After practice we often stay on the ice and work on shooting. And he’s always ready to come to the aid of the other guys.”

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Jagr was one of his idols. I'm glad that they got the chance to play together.

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The comp pick has basically turned into Oscar Lindberg because we drafted Werek with that pick and traded him to Phoenix.

Dont recall the nastiness on the comp pick, what happened?
A lot of *****ing and calling the Rangers classless for seeking a pick when their prospect died. No one seemed to remember that you get a comp pick for failing to sign a 1st rounder. Debbies fans flipped a ****, obviously. Vancouver fans *****ed about not getting something for Bourdon (which didn't make sense as he was signed and played). Just a whole lot of stupidity.

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A lot of *****ing and calling the Rangers classless for seeking a pick when their prospect died. No one seemed to remember that you get a comp pick for failing to sign a 1st rounder. Debbies fans flipped a ****, obviously. Vancouver fans *****ed about not getting something for Bourdon (which didn't make sense as he was signed and played). Just a whole lot of stupidity.
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I remember being so excited when we drafted him. I cheered when the pick was announced. Seeing the news about him did not make for a good hockey day.

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I remember being so excited when we drafted him. I cheered when the pick was announced. Seeing the news about him did not make for a good hockey day.
Maybe the saddest day of my hockey watching life. For a straight week, I denied it happened and couldn't believe it. So much talent, so young, just awful.

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As a New York Ranger fan, I can always lament the "what if?" aspect of his death and imagine various lineups and whatnot. For me, though, the saddest thing is that we missed out on having this kid grow up before our eyes.

I didn't get to see the majority of Alexei Kovalev's career, but what I do remember is watching that same process happen, as a kid myself. 20 something years later, I still remember his little troll doll, the mustard stain game, speaking through translators and finally doing some interviews by himself. All meaningless things, especially when stacked against his entire body of work on the ice and off, but those are all things that shaped my hockey fandom. While we have no idea what this kid would have ended up doing on the ice for the team (if at all), I feel like this is something we were robbed of.

This is Hockey's Future, land of shiny toys and extrapolated statistics, all things that are subjective and/or wishful thinking for almost every prospect. We all love "our guys" and "calling it when everyone else doubted it", but feeling a loss of in on ice product in this situation, would be selfish of me, compared to the real story here. Yes, he could have been a "home grown superstar", as well as endless other deserved or undeserved titles, ranging from positive to negative, but when taking the big picture into consideration, that's meaningless. Whether or not Cherepanov would have turned into player X or not, to me, is the side note on an otherwise touching human story where, ultimately, we all lose out.

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Sad day all around that day. First, tragic to see a life taken away at such a young age. Secondarily, as a Ranger fan, we lost a supreme talent. He wasn't going to be a generational talent, but, more likely a player similar to Alexander Semin. One of the more enjoyable days as a Ranger was draft night 2007, watching Cherepanov fall into the Rangers laps. The smile on his face when he was taken by the Rangers was priceless. If anyone wants to pull up that thread, it was sheer drama and entertainment. If nothing else, he gave us that as Ranger fans.

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A lot of *****ing and calling the Rangers classless for seeking a pick when their prospect died. No one seemed to remember that you get a comp pick for failing to sign a 1st rounder. Debbies fans flipped a ****, obviously. Vancouver fans *****ed about not getting something for Bourdon (which didn't make sense as he was signed and played). Just a whole lot of stupidity.
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A lot of *****ing and calling the Rangers classless for seeking a pick when their prospect died. No one seemed to remember that you get a comp pick for failing to sign a 1st rounder. Debbies fans flipped a ****, obviously. Vancouver fans *****ed about not getting something for Bourdon (which didn't make sense as he was signed and played). Just a whole lot of stupidity.
Thats ridiculous...

I also think the Semin comparison is not bad, but from what I saw Alexei never shied away from contact and was always in front of the net...Semin hangs outside mostly and slaps like a girl

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Got to watch all of his games at the 2007 WJC. He was dominant. Possibly the most dominant I've ever seen one player at that tournament, ever. He was absolutely dynamic in every sense. I would put good money on the fact that he would have been a 90-100 point player at the NHL level. Yes, I know, ballsy claim, but he was one of the most talented players I've EVER seen at that age.

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