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06-04-2014, 05:50 PM
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And how does getting Richards match what hextall said in saying he wants to stay young right now?
If Hartnell and/or Vinny are gone, why not? Dude would be fine as a bottom 6 forward to improve play down there. And the guy is still a great leader.

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06-04-2014, 05:55 PM
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Have you watched Richards much this year? He is not a top 6 option anymore

He would be better slotted in Vinny's #4 spot
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Its true. Richards has no impact on the game whatsoever. I would rather play a young guy who is cheaper and has a better future.
Nostalgia > Reality. We saw the same thing with Gagne on here. I liked Richards when he was here but the dude is shot out, I rather let someone else take on that problem.

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06-04-2014, 06:03 PM
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Nostalgia > Reality. We saw the same thing with Gagne on here. I liked Richards when he was here but the dude is shot out, I rather let someone else take on that problem.
The Gagne talk last summer was just unbearable. I'm dreading the nostalgia Mike Richards stuff. People already want to pay him and are cool with him being in the bottom 6. Umm, what?!?! That sounds like an especially awesome way to build a team.

edit: Oh by the way, we have a very similar player to Richards about to break on to the team. He seems like a totally forgotten commodity for some reason. People around here seem like they couldn't give two ***** Scott Laughton is coming.


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06-04-2014, 06:08 PM
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The Gagne talk last summer was just unbearable. I'm dreading the nostalgia Mike Richards stuff. People already want to pay him and are cool with him being in the bottom 6. Umm, what?!?! That sounds like an especially awesome way to build a team.
To be fair, I don't think wanting Gagne back was the bad. Gagne got a lot of hate last year for being a shell of his former self offensively, yet people (including myself) ate up Raffl and his limited offensive ability.

No to Mike Richards though. Just let Laughton play.

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06-04-2014, 06:14 PM
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To be fair, I don't think wanting Gagne back was the bad. Gagne got a lot of hate last year for being a shell of his former self offensively, yet people (including myself) ate up Raffl and his limited offensive ability.
Raffl's inability to finish was very frustrating but unlike Gagne he wasn't a soft perimeter player.

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06-04-2014, 06:15 PM
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To be fair, I don't think wanting Gagne back was the bad. Gagne got a lot of hate last year for being a shell of his former self offensively, yet people (including myself) ate up Raffl and his limited offensive ability.

No to Mike Richards though. Just let Laughton play.
2014 Raffl >>> 2014 Gagne

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06-04-2014, 06:18 PM
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Raffl's inability to finish was very frustrating but unlike Gagne he wasn't a soft perimeter player.
Also, anyone saw Gagne skate with Giroux and Voracek knows Gagne could't finish anymore either. Gagne was good at nothing at the end.

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06-04-2014, 06:59 PM
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Regarding Richards, no one is forgetting about Laughton. We're just saying that BSchenn will (should) be a winger moving forward, and that means we need to fill the 4C hole if you're optimistic and think Laughton can be a 3C right away.

But I say take the slow route with Laughton. Let him play a year as the 4C (hopefully giving us a strong fourth line for once), and maybe bring in Richards to play 3C for a little bit. He still put up 41 points this year. He's not totally useless, and he further aids our goal to alleviate some of the defensive pressure off of Couturier.

For three years at 3.5m, I don't see a problem (assuming Lecavalier is gone, of course).

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06-04-2014, 07:35 PM
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Regarding Richards, no one is forgetting about Laughton. We're just saying that BSchenn will (should) be a winger moving forward, and that means we need to fill the 4C hole if you're optimistic and think Laughton can be a 3C right away.

But I say take the slow route with Laughton. Let him play a year as the 4C (hopefully giving us a strong fourth line for once), and maybe bring in Richards to play 3C for a little bit. He still put up 41 points this year. He's not totally useless, and he further aids our goal to alleviate some of the defensive pressure off of Couturier.

For three years at 3.5m, I don't see a problem (assuming Lecavalier is gone, of course).
EXACTLY, people make him out to be as bad as rinaldo, i for one would love to have him back and play the third line and move up coots and move schenn to wing or trade him for a winger if he can't convert

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For three years at 3.5m, I don't see a problem (assuming Lecavalier is gone, of course).
That's where you and I disagree then. Just sign Rasmussen for a million.

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That's where you and I disagree then. Just sign Rasmussen for a million.
Why not both? We need a bottom six center and a fourth line winger.

Schenn-Giroux-Voracek
Akeson-Couturier-Read
Hartnell-Richards-Simmonds
Rasmussen-Laughton-Raffl

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Why not both? We need a bottom six center and a fourth line winger.

Schenn-Giroux-Voracek
Akeson-Couturier-Read
Hartnell-Richards-Simmonds
Rasmussen-Laughton-Raffl
i think id switch hartnell and akeson

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06-04-2014, 08:48 PM
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Why is every so quick to pencil this Rasmussen guy into the line-up?

We got lucky with Raffl, so you all think it will happen with him too?

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06-04-2014, 08:53 PM
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Why not both? We need a bottom six center and a fourth line winger.
Because even at your idea of 3 years at 3.5m is too much of a commitment for a guy who would be destined to be our 4th line C by year 2. I have to think he gets a longer term offer by someone on the open market anyway.

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Why is every so quick to pencil this Rasmussen guy into the line-up?

We got lucky with Raffl, so you all think it will happen with him too?
I use Rasmussen as a placeholder. He may or may not be an NHLer, but either way, we need a fourth line winger. Rasmussen, Fiddler, Winnik, whoever...

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Because even at your idea of 3 years at 3.5m is too much of a commitment for a guy who would be destined to be our 4th line C by year 2. I have to think he gets a longer term offer by someone on the open market anyway.
Fair enough. I think he could be a third line winger, too, if we needed.

EDIT: Also, if we got him back, we could say we only traded Carter for Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier, Schenn, and picks.


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I use Rasmussen as a placeholder. He may or may not be an NHLer, but either way, we need a fourth line winger. Rasmussen, Fiddler, Winnik, whoever...



Fair enough. I think he could be a third line winger, too, if we needed.

EDIT: Also, if we got him back, we could say we only traded Carter for Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier, Schenn, and picks.
Doesn't matter, there'd still be idiots who say we lost that trade because Carter won a cup...

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Why is every so quick to pencil this Rasmussen guy into the line-up?

We got lucky with Raffl, so you all think it will happen with him too?
well said. every just loves the new shiny toy, from what i read some scouts don't even have him cracking nhl line ups. **** if mike richards wants to sign for 3M and play bottom 6 minutes im cool with that, but Vinny would have to be dealt, and we would be 100% giving up on schenn, and im not sure im cool with that yet, if schenn signs for a good price and doesn't want a ******** number id give him until the trade deadline before id consider him trade bait. unless the flyers get blown away in a deal with him for a stud dman "i dont see that happening this summer" that being said i dont hate the get rid of Vinny/Schenn idea if you're gonna give Stastny a contract because that would be a very skilled 1/2 punch up the middle.

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I use Rasmussen as a placeholder. He may or may not be an NHLer, but either way, we need a fourth line winger. Rasmussen, Fiddler, Winnik, whoever...



Fair enough. I think he could be a third line winger, too, if we needed.

EDIT: Also, if we got him back, we could say we only traded Carter for Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier, Schenn, and picks.
I think Winnik would be a good fit for the Flyers on the 4th line. If the money is close to Rasmussen I would take Winnik.

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Richards is going to sign here after he wins another cup in LA

I don't see him coming back at all....

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Richards is going to sign here after he wins another cup in LA

I don't see him coming back at all....
Maybe Justin Williams come back

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Regarding Richards, no one is forgetting about Laughton. We're just saying that BSchenn will (should) be a winger moving forward
Flyers see him as a center.

Team Canada sees him as a center.

He sees himself as a center.

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We need trades to beef up our 3rd and 4th lines along with keeping it skilled. King,Clifford,and Nolan are targets but we'll never get them but Winnik is the same as those guys. Rinaldo,Hall gone from the 4th line and we gotta get Coots some real 3rd liners. I know Read scores 20 but is a vanilla type player who barely wins a puck battle and a Guy like King would be perfect along with Raffl.

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We need trades to beef up our 3rd and 4th lines along with keeping it skilled. King,Clifford,and Nolan are targets but we'll never get them but Winnik is the same as those guys. Rinaldo,Hall gone from the 4th line and we gotta get Coots some real 3rd liners. I know Read scores 20 but is a vanilla type player who barely wins a puck battle and a Guy like King would be perfect along with Raffl.
Get rid of Read? Get a grip bud.

Kings fans have been on King's case for most of the year, and Clifford is a fourth liner who happened to score last night so you show up to talk him up. I agree that changes need to be made to the fourth line, but Matt Read is the last friggen winger they should be looking to move because of his versatility, two way play and minimal cap hit.

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Our 4th line was so bad this year (especially the ungodly Rinaldo-Hall-Rosehill combo) that I think we can improve it thru free agency and bringing up Laughton.

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Even if Richards wanted to come back here the Flyers don't have the cap space to make it happen. On the open market his cap hit could actually end up going up (although for shorter term obviously).

Winnik is definitely a guy the Flyers could use. If Hall isn't resigned McClement would be a nice piece. I also wouldn't mind seeing Powe given a tryout for the 4th line/Allentown.

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