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3 RCMP Officers Dead, 2 Wounded In Moncton

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06-05-2014, 07:44 AM
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why is there like 10 pictures of him online walking around yesterday? Were people just following him taking pictures..

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06-05-2014, 07:54 AM
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was just watching CTV news and they showed huge armored trucks moving into an area and a bunch of army guys jumped out and now heading into the woods, Looks like they are going after him now. Daylight will help big time.

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06-05-2014, 08:00 AM
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CTV Cameras just showed this. Looks like they are going into the area now.


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06-05-2014, 08:32 AM
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Sad that Mustaine is going to get **** for "inspiring" this nutjob, despite these lyrics being so cryptic.
Dave Mustaine needs to respond to this tragedy immediately to clear the band's name and integrity.

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06-05-2014, 08:47 AM
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Dave Mustaine needs to respond to this tragedy immediately to clear the band's name and integrity.
Let's hope he doesn't follow that up with a cranky birther quote about Obama being born in Kenya.

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06-05-2014, 09:15 AM
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What's with the Brinks trucks? I thought they were just security guards that transported money?

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06-05-2014, 09:18 AM
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What's with the Brinks trucks? I thought they were just security guards that transported money?
Probably just being used as an armoured vehicle. Maybe the police force there don't have any locally available.

My best guess, anyway.

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06-05-2014, 09:19 AM
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Probably just being used as an armoured vehicle. Maybe the police force there don't have any locally available.

My best guess, anyway.
That makes sense. Those Brink trucks are pretty tough.

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06-05-2014, 09:27 AM
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Question, if one of the people in the houses was to shoot him, would they be looking at serving time?

I think Germany they would get 15 years, but not sure in Canada if using a gun to stop this would be kosher.

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Question, if one of the people in the houses was to shoot him, would they be looking at serving time?

I think Germany they would get 15 years, but not sure in Canada if using a gun to stop this would be kosher.


Your idiocy knows no bounds, does it?

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Your idiocy knows no bounds, does it?
It's a valid question jackass.

If a legal gun owner shoot this ******* while he was shooting the police, would they be in trouble. In some countries like Germany, you could face 15 years for that.

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It's a valid question jackass.

If a legal gun owner shoot this ******* while he was shooting the police, would they be in trouble. In some countries like Germany, you could face 15 years for that.
Under what basis would you think you could face 15 years for defense of others in Germany?

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It's a valid question jackass.

If a legal gun owner shoot this ******* while he was shooting the police, would they be in trouble. In some countries like Germany, you could face 15 years for that.
Ah, the old "good guy with a gun" fantasy that American gun zealots daydream about 24/7 with their noodle in their right hand. Can you comprehend how disturbing it is for people from other countries that you're even thinking about this when you read a news story like this?

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Ah, the old "good guy with a gun" fantasy that American gun zealots daydream about 24/7 with their noodle in their right hand. Can you comprehend how disturbing it is for people from other countries that you're even thinking about this when you read a news story like this?
Imagine a town in Texas with this going down.

It's a simple question.

Since our Canadian Law guy ain't posting, this is the only obscure law case I could find to compare it to:

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...lf-with-a-gun/

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Imagine a town in Texas with this going down.

It's a simple question.

Since our Canadian Law guy ain't posting, this is the only obscure law case I could find to compare it to:

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...lf-with-a-gun/
Why would I "imagine" that? It would be bizarre and disturbing for me to imagine a bunch of armed vigilantes trying to be heroes in a situation like this.

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Well first you'd have to find someone stupid enough to willingly join a shootout without knowing what the hell is going on. It's not a video game you numpty.

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It's a valid question jackass.

If a legal gun owner shoot this ******* while he was shooting the police, would they be in trouble. In some countries like Germany, you could face 15 years for that.

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Why would I "imagine" that? It would be bizarre and disturbing for me to imagine a bunch of armed vigilantes trying to be heroes in a situation like this.
It's hypothetical. Damn. Just hide in your house till the government gives you the ok to come out.

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Under what basis would you think you could face 15 years for defense of others in Germany?
Do you know anything about German law? Personally I do not, but I'd like to think this guy at least has an idea, otherwise why bring it up?

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It's hypothetical. Damn. Just hide in your house till the government gives you the ok to come out.
Oddly, I don't get the feeling that out of the two of us, I'm the one who spends more time hiding in my house worrying about the boogeyman!

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Imagine a town in Texas with this going down.

It's a simple question.

Since our Canadian Law guy ain't posting, this is the only obscure law case I could find to compare it to:

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...lf-with-a-gun/
Again, per this, defense of others with reasonable force is legal in Canada, and probably every (or, if not, nearly every) country:

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Defence — use or threat of force

34. (1) A person is not guilty of an offence if

(a) they believe on reasonable grounds that force is being used against them or another person or that a threat of force is being made against them or another person;

(b) the act that constitutes the offence is committed for the purpose of defending or protecting themselves or the other person from that use or threat of force; and

(c) the act committed is reasonable in the circumstances.
I'd still like to know why you think it wouldn't be legal in Germany.

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Do you know anything about German law? Personally I do not, but I'd like to think this guy at least has an idea, otherwise why bring it up?
I'd like to think so, too, but sadly, I think critically and require evidence to support a position rather than an assumption that the person is reasonable enough to make sure they understand something before they make a claim based on it.

Besides, even I make such assumptions falsely sometimes. I'd usually want people to critique my claim, too, because it makes sure I do know what I'm talking about, and helps me correct myself if I don't. Therefore, I have no reason to assume anyone else couldn't, and feel I'm doing them a disservice if I do.

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Imagine a town in Texas with this going down.

It's a simple question.

Since our Canadian Law guy ain't posting, this is the only obscure law case I could find to compare it to:

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...lf-with-a-gun/
A bunch of wannabe heroes going around looking for a guy in camo that heavily armed while at the same time the police are looking for an armed suspect. Yeah nothing bad can happen at all from that.

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Do you know anything about German law? Personally I do not, but I'd like to think this guy at least has an idea, otherwise why bring it up?
From someone else, but it's something I read.

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Well first you'd have to find someone stupid enough to willingly join a shootout without knowing what the hell is going on. It's not a video game you numpty.
Guy shooting at police, do you shoot with him at the police, or do you shoot at the guy shooting at police.

I guess that is a hard situation to figure out.

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Again, per this, defense of others with reasonable force is legal in Canada, and probably every (or, if not, nearly every) country:



I'd still like to know why you think it wouldn't be legal in Germany.



I'd like to think so, too, but sadly, I think critically and require evidence to support a position rather than an assumption that the person is reasonable enough to make sure they understand something before they make a claim based on it.

Besides, even I make such assumptions falsely sometimes. I'd usually want people to critique my claim, too, because it makes sure I do know what I'm talking about, and helps me correct myself if I don't. Therefore, I have no reason to assume anyone else couldn't, and feel I'm doing them a disservice if I do.
Must have changed since my friend lived there 20 years ago.

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A bunch of wannabe heroes going around looking for a guy in camo that heavily armed while at the same time the police are looking for an armed suspect. Yeah nothing bad can happen at all from that.
A guy walking through a neighborhood shooting cops. A guy walking across your front lawn doing this.

I didn't say load up the truck and head to woods to find him.

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