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06-06-2014, 03:26 PM
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Justin Schultz's contract

Stauffer just said that Justin Schultz's camp "probably wouldn't take current Ryan McDonagh contract". What do you think is going to happen?

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What a joke. He's done nothing to earn a bigger deal than that

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wtf?

If that's how they seriously feel, this is going to arbitration.

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I expect a bridge deal.

I wouldn't blame Schultz or his agent for not wanting to sign a long term deal at 4.7M. I imagine he'll sign a bridge deal and they hope for him to have a couple of big 55+ point seasons. Then they will be looking for 6+.

McDonagh's deal is a poor comparable, because frankly it is an outright steal for a top 15 d-man in the league. Something the Oilers never are able to manage.

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**** this team. Trade him, sign him, whatever. You're now winning a cup if your players have an attitude like this.

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Dump him. He's done nothing.

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My prediction has been for awhile that either Petry or Schultz will get moved in the off season. Both are hauling 20+ minutes on the team and they look at what the oilers have done for other players---Oilers to be cost affective will need to move one

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Re-sign him to a 7 year 42-million dollar contract.

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Re-sign him to a 7 year 42-million dollar contract.
You know what, I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is what the Schultz camp wants to sign long term.

And really, what does MacT expect is going to happen? He signs RNH to the same deal as Hall and Eberle after a bad sophomore season and then goes around trumping the three of those guys and Justin Schultz as the core to build around. Schultz sees RNH get a contract he hasn't earned, sees himself being placed in the same group as the guys who all got the same deal and him and his agent think.... "I'm a core player according to this GM, this is the going rate for core players around here. I want that too"

He obviously isn't close to being worth that (or frankly a 6 year deal worth 4.7 per year). Hopefully this is all moot and he signs a bridge deal and ends up having a couple of great years and everyone can come back to the negotiation table.

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...and the mob gathers the pitchforks and lights the torches...

It's the opening salvo of an important negotiation, why would Schultz lowball himself especially after the Oilers have repeatably mentioned him in the same breath as Hall/Eberle/RNH when it comes to being part of the core the team is being built around?

His agent will ask for one number, the Oilers will reply with something lower. It's how the game works.

That's not to say this couldn't eventually result in him being dealt out of town, but I don't think this turns him in the Antichrist overnight.

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ANGRY RESPONSE
ANGRY RESPONSE
SARCASTIC CONTRACT
BURN EVERYTHING
FIRE THE MALL

- did I get it right?

Stauffer is speculating, that is all. He might know something - he more likely does not.

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IMO:

1-2 year contract - ~$2.75M
3-4 year contract - $3.5M - $4.0M
5-6 year contract - $4.0M - $4.75M

Some numbers I'd be happy with.

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I think 2 years at 3.5/season would be a fair bridge deal. 4.5/season for anything over 4 years.

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Give him the Sam Gagner special with 100% more NMC.

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he has the oilers by the ball bag because they dont have capable defenders to play. he will get close to what he wants

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Well they did just start negotiating so I'm not that concerned, but at the same time he shouldn't strike us as a guy that would come cheap.

Wonder if you see him dealt, if negotiations don't go well.

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I think 2 years at 3.5/season would be a fair bridge deal. 4.5/season for anything over 4 years.
Pk subban got 2.875 on a bridge, so no it would not be fair.

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ANGRY RESPONSE
ANGRY RESPONSE
SARCASTIC CONTRACT
BURN EVERYTHING
FIRE THE MALL

- did I get it right?

Stauffer is speculating, that is all. He might know something - he more likely does not.
The Mall doesn't deserve to be fired

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If that's the case I'd flip Schultz + 2016 1st for Thornton

Gagner retained salary + Musil + Pitlick for Sharp

Yakupov + Lander + 2015 2nd for 1st overall= Ekblad

Draft Draisaitl with 3rd overall.

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron-Thornton-Sharp
X-Draisaitl-X
Hendricks-Gordon-Pinozzotto

X-X
Marincin-Petry
Klefbom-Ekblad

Hopefully the X's can be filled with Kulemin, Markov, Fayne, Moss

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If that's the case I'd flip Schultz + 2016 1st for Thornton

Gagner retained salary + Musil + Pitlick for Sharp

Yakupov + Lander + 2015 2nd for 1st overall= Ekblad

Draft Draisaitl with 3rd overall.

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron-Thornton-Sharp
X-Draisaitl-X
Hendricks-Gordon-Pinozzotto

X-X
Marincin-Petry
Klefbom-Ekblad


Hopefully the X's can be filled with Kulemin, Markov, Fayne, Moss
yuck. That defence looks HORRIBLE next year. Welcome Mr. McDavid!

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My prediction has been for awhile that either Petry or Schultz will get moved in the off season. Both are hauling 20+ minutes on the team and they look at what the oilers have done for other players---Oilers to be cost affective will need to move one
And then we can bring back Theo Peckham to play top 4 RHD minutes?

Oilers are in no position to be trading either Schultz or Petry. Unfortunately, that sort of hurts the Oilers bargaining power.

But whatever. At this point there is nothing to get worked up about. If you traded every player that ever asked for too much money while in contract negotiations you'd only be left with 4th line tweeners.

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yuck. That defence looks HORRIBLE next year. Welcome Mr. McDavid!
Get used to it.

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he has the oilers by the ball bag because they dont have capable defenders to play. he will get close to what he wants
They don't have capable defenders with Schultz, so I'm not sure how that's a good negotiating angle.

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Pk subban got 2.875 on a bridge, so no it would not be fair.
the Subban deal was signed in a very different situation. Montreal had almost no cap space at all, the cap was artificially tanked because of the lockout, and that is a huge factor when making a good faith deal with a player. It's hard to justify chiseling Schultz on his deal when we have cap space laying around doing nothing.

I also got to love everyone getting angry and wanting him traded. First off, this is just speculation. Second, moving Schultz isn't a big option for us. We need him a lot more than he needs us. He is a big piece of this team going forward and he'll get a fair contract I'm sure.

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yuck. That defence looks HORRIBLE next year. Welcome Mr. McDavid!
Our D is what it is this year. With Scrivens and Fasth we are a .500 team. Add the fact Oilers have 2 dangerous top 2 lines. We should be borderline playoffs team. If we can add Markov, kulemin, fayne, etc. Who knows? Oilers could go pretty far.

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