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Andrew Ference Marches in Pride Parade (Edmonton)

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06-08-2014, 02:09 PM
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I prefer the one about child brides. Because nothing compares with two adults entering in a legal contract better than a 40 year old fat guy paying off a poor family for their 8 year old daughter.
"Marrying your dog" should be approaching the runway shortly.

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I can show you videos of turtles humping shoes too..or my dog humping my leg. Having it be a part of human records since time has begun does not prove people are born that way nor that it's right.
Leaving aside 'born that way', how the hell is it wrong? It has no effect on you...or me.

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So now it's equivalent to beastality. Oh, please, do explain why it's not right.



Then you're a moran.
So I'm a "moran"

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It's not a comparison...it is to show that we as a Society do put limits on all our "Rights".
Well, you have to explain why homosexual marriage deserves similar limits as those other actions, then. Or, in other words, you have to compare homosexuality to those actions in order for those facts to be relevant.

So, either you weren't making them as a point against homosexual marriage, or you were comparing them to homosexual marriage.

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06-08-2014, 02:11 PM
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So I'm a "moran"
Yup, you're a moran.


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Leaving aside 'born that way', how the hell is it wrong? It has no effect on you...or me.
It doesn't.

Which is why I stated they shouldn't be discriminated against or stoned or jailed. It's not about me saying you or whoever can't be a homosexual.

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Well I also don't believe Polygamy or Incest or under-aged marriage should be allowed either and I'd venture to guess a majority of people feel the same way. Yet we don't hear about that infringing on anyones equal rights.

Should homosexuals be allowed to live and share their life together without being discriminated against or jailed or stoned? Yes. It's their lives..they should be able to live it how they see fit. Do I agree with it or see it as normal? No. I do not.
Polygamy - harmful to women, families and society
Incest - birth defects and harmful to families
Under-aged marriage - Between 2 young people who almost certainly aren't ready to make that kind of decision or 1 young person who is in a dangerous position with an older one.
Gay marriage - 2 willing people getting married to each other, no one is being harmed.

Very different things. Have any problems been shown to be caused to children, families or societies from gay marriage?

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No surprise such hate-filled intolerance would come from Oilers fans.
Come on. No fan of the Oilers here, but that one poster was getting blasted by all the other Oiler fans responding to him.

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"Marrying your dog" should be approaching the runway shortly.
He beat you by about 5 posts.

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Yup, you're a moran.


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It doesn't.

Which is why I stated they shouldn't be discriminated against or stoned or jailed. It's not about me saying you or whoever can't be a homosexual.
So why shouldn't they be allowed to enter a legal contract with each other? I'm still waiting for you to actually answer that question and stop insisting you have no problems with homosexuals.

In other words, I think thou dost protest too much about thouest lack of issues with homosexuality.

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06-08-2014, 02:16 PM
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No surprise such hate-filled intolerance would come from Oilers fans.
If you read the thread you'll see that the majority of Oiler fans are calling the posters who are posting hatred out.

I'd be willing to bet that even Edmonton, which is one of the most conservative places in Canada, is far more tolerant than the vast majority of American cities.

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06-08-2014, 02:17 PM
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Polygamy - harmful to women, families and society
Incest - birth defects and harmful to families
Under-aged marriage - Between 2 young people who almost certainly aren't ready to make that kind of decision or 1 young person who is in a dangerous position with an older one.
Gay marriage - 2 willing people getting married to each other, no one is being harmed.

Very different things. Have any problems been shown to be caused to children, families or societies from gay marriage?
C'mon man..lol ..

Regular marriage is harmful to women and families.

Incest doesn't have to include offspring.

Do we now ban people with Down Syndrome from getting married because of the possible birth defects?

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06-08-2014, 02:20 PM
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If you read the thread you'll see that the majority of Oiler fans are calling the posters who are posting hatred out.

I'd be willing to bet that even Edmonton, which is one of the most conservative places in Canada, is far more tolerant than the vast majority of American cities.
Actually, false. Historically, Edmonton is normally a liberal stronghold. I seem to recall some people compare it to Austin, Texas in that matter. Most of the rest of Alberta, Calgary in particular, is heavily conservative, but Edmonton is the Liberal oasis.

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06-08-2014, 03:34 PM
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Don't see what the big issue is here. One bigoted posted on the Oilers Board appears to be the only person being quoted with his shorts in a twist over this. Are we creating threads now because of something a single poster says on a Hockey discussion board?
There were 3 of them in that thread. Only one was up front about it though. The other two tried to mask their intolerance but it was a thin facade.

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06-08-2014, 03:53 PM
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It's not a comparison...it is to show that we as a Society do put limits on all our "Rights" and they're not quite as "Equal" as you'd like to think.
Luckily, our society is evolving and becoming more accepting of diversity. I'm sure that in 1916 many people thought that it was unacceptable for woman to have the right to vote. Same thing in 1960, when Aboriginal people were given the right to vote. A lot of the old laws are based on outdated belief systems and are absolutely ridiculous. Society evolves, but not everyone does, as evidenced by this thread.

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Andrew Ference taking part in the pride parade created a bit of a discussion on the Oilers board, including some posters suggesting he should be stripped of his captaincy. It's sad that this is still even a discussion point but those are the times we live in. We were told to continue it here.

Some news articles:
http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/oilers-ca...rade-1.1857996
http://oilersnation.com/2014/6/7/pri...rence-steps-up
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/MacKi...573/story.html
http://globalnews.ca/news/1380481/st...-pride-parade/



Here's where most of the political discussion started on the Oilers forum (locked so I can't quote):
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...1#post86168981
Good for you Ference. That is the way to show community leadership.

And to those critisizing him, you are nothing but knuckle-dragging, troglodytes.

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06-08-2014, 04:18 PM
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This thread has run its course, continued off the tracks, smashed into the adjacent town, and is now being used as a train-themed restaurant.

Throwing the key away.
Funny post, Soli.

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Good for you Ference. That is the way to show community leadership.
I completely agree, such an awesome gesture.

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Then what's the reason to be against it? Just curious because I don't recall hearing anyone be opposed to it for reasons that weren't religious.
But God exists. He is best possible explanation for the existence of matter

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But God exists. He is best possible explanation for the existence of matter
For sure bro.

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I completely agree, such an awesome gesture.
I'm neither LGBT nor an Oilers fan and still I feel genuinely proud of him, thanks Andrew!

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But God exists. He is best possible explanation for the existence of matter


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I'm neither LGBT nor an Oilers fan and still I feel genuinely proud of him, thanks Andrew!
Me too, NTTAWWT. Except the Oilers part, Go Wings!

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But God exists. He is best possible explanation for the existence of matter
There is literally zero proof in all of recorded history that God exists, let alone that God disapproves of equality and tolerance.

The bible is not proof.

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Seemed like sarcasm but maybe I need new batteries


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