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06-10-2014, 06:13 PM
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Honest question, has he ever predicted anything right/have good sources?
He does have contacts in the league. Former ref, he got to know a lot of people. He broke a few news, including the Kovalev deal.

Why do I think we'll end up trading with Pittsburgh? Rutherford will be looking at making changes. They may be into a scoring winger or third C for defensive duties.

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Fournier is still relevant?

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06-10-2014, 06:15 PM
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How is Eller and his 12 goals and 26 points impossible to move? lol
...because he was probably our best all-around forward in the playoffs and now might finally get the chance (the time and the linemates) to prove he's more to this team than just a good #3C...trading Larry right now, unless the return is a killer, would be foolish...

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Fournier is still relevant?
Well, if he isn't, a whole lot of people aren't...

We'll see.

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...because he was probably our best all-around forward in the playoffs and now might finally get the chance (the time and the linemates) to prove he's more to this team than just a good #3C...trading Larry right now, unless the return is a killer, would be foolish...
And how would you know if the return isn't killer if you aren't shopping him? Makes sense right?

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06-10-2014, 06:18 PM
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Pleks can do what Eller was doing in the regular season, no need to rush another center. They can just move Galch to center on an offensive minded line.



It wouldn't make any sense. If they're going after a D with a good forward it won't be for a contract dump. Unless you consider Bourque an impact forward, eh.
It might sense FOR MB only if he sees Volchenkov as a character player

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Well, if he isn't, a whole lot of people aren't...

We'll see.
I stopped listening to Bonsoir les Sportifs years ago. It was getting unbearable.

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It's gotta be Plex or Bork. Patches isn't going anywhere and if he was it would be for a Top defenceman not a good one.

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Well, any top 6 player is consider an "impact player" for our team from that point of view.

We don't trade Galchenyuk...that's clear.
We only have Gallagher and Patches as top 6 wingers.

Of course, we have major depth at center.

But i really don't see the point in trading a forward for a D-men unless Markov
is gone. And even there...

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And how would you know if the return isn't killer if you aren't shopping him? Makes sense right?
...no, shopping him doesn't make sense...now, if a GM came to Bergevin and offered a ridiculous deal for Eller, that's different, but to have Larry on the block right now is dumb...if any of our centres need to go, it's DD or, sadly, Pleks (Briere wouldn't get us much of anything, even if he waived the NMC)...

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Did PG really ever get fleeced?
the gomez - mcdonagh trade was gauthier's doing

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He does have contacts in the league. Former ref, he got to know a lot of people. He broke a few news, including the Kovalev deal.

Why do I think we'll end up trading with Pittsburgh? Rutherford will be looking at making changes. They may be into a scoring winger or third C for defensive duties.
Thanks for the info.

Doesn't Pittsburgh have Sutter as their 3rd C? Maybe they want to take a flyer on Bourque, wouldn't be a bad idea to try to trade him while his value is at an all-time high (which isn't that much but still).

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Just listened to it again:

- Players need to agree with the system
- He says that MAYBE there will be some big surprises.
- If the players don't want to accept the way that Therrien coaches, MAYBE the Habs will make 1 or 2 trades that will surprise the hockey world.
- There will PROBABLY be a headline, that will say that a guy from the core left for this and that player. "Let's remember that conversation" Fournier says.
- There will be a trade. There will be a trade. There will be a trade.
- Either a big guy on the first line or a #3 d-man 'cause Markov SHOULD sign
- Gorges is #6 next year. But there are teams that are interested in him right now
- Time to move on from players. "This is MY OPINION" says Fournier.
- Weaver: He needs to be considered. He's great competitor, playoff guy.
- Goalies: Tokarski is a trade asset. But if we are able to get that #1 forward on the first line, we will add Tokarski on a trade to make that trade possible. Budaj should be #2 next year.
- "There's plenty of teams that want the player I'm talking about". They won't believe he's available. The guy I'm talking about is in his prime. And had a great season".
- We're talking about a player that plays on the first 2 lines but you're going to acquire a top d-man that could play on the powerplay.
- "I didn't talk to Marc Bergevin" "But he's looking to improve his team".
- "I won't say the name" But when Langlois asked him "Is it Pleks"? Fournier says immediately...NO. but then add I won't say the name.

Not going to repeat what was said for White, Leblanc and the rest....

FRANKLY, this looks more like a wishlist than inside infos. But CLEARLY, Fournier is targetting Pacioretty as he insists with the fact that we're looking for warriors and great competitors in the playoffs.

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06-10-2014, 06:27 PM
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...no, shopping him doesn't make sense...now, if a GM came to Bergevin and offered a ridiculous deal for Eller, that's different, but to have Larry on the block right now is dumb...if any of our centres need to go, it's DD or, sadly, Pleks (Briere wouldn't get us much of anything, even if he waived the NMC)...
Nobody is going to come to Bergevin about Eller unless he made it clear he was available, which was already done at the deadline. Like it or not, Eller is one of the best value we've got. DD isn't going to get you anything, neither is Bourque and Pleks has a NTC. The other possibility is Patches. I don't like it better.

In any case Ron is an idiot who always exaggerates whatever tip he gets.

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This screams Plekanec, IMO.

Really hope it's not Eller or Pacioretty.

Desharnais would be too good to be true.

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It makes no sense to trade Pacioretty now. None. I don't know what to think.

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If the Habs are trading a top forward, that means Markov is gone and one of Beaulieu or Tinordi will also be dealt in part of another potential trade to get a top forward back.

Subban-Gorges / Emelin-Top guy / Weaver-Tinordi/Beaulieu/Pateryn/Nygren?

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I stopped listening to Bonsoir les Sportifs years ago. It was getting unbearable.
Oh, his call radio show's the ***** no doubt there, but him as a source is good enough for me.

He's been around forever and has his contacts.

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unless we're getting a OEL level D, trading Patch would make no sense

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gudbranson out of florida....book it

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unless we're getting a OEL level D, trading Patch would make no sense
i would do it for josi and forsberg, but i agree that i wouldnt move pacioretty unless it were for a young top pairing Dman+

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This screams Plekanec, IMO.

Really hope it's not Eller or Pacioretty.

Desharnais would be too good to be true.
lol.

Eller... over Gallagher and Galchenyuk. Hilarious.

From Whitesnake's post, it seems clear it's Pacioretty. And that's fine depending on the return.

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also...on the note of gudbranson...watch this and take a good listen at the 2:05 mark


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lol.

Eller... over Gallagher and Galchenyuk. Hilarious.
...he's not saying that...the Gallys wouldn't and shouldn't even enter anyone's head here, because noone in their right mind would even consider trading either...

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lol.

Eller... over Gallagher and Galchenyuk. Hilarious.
More like Gallagher and Galchenyuk are impossibilities, while Eller remains with the realm of possibility.

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