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06-10-2014, 06:36 PM
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the gomez - mcdonagh trade was gauthier's doing
No It wasn't and your conjecture is only that.

The man who made the trade was Sideshow Bob Gainey and you can't prove otherwise whereas there is a mountain of proof that it was him.

Gauthier got Eller for Halak and Bork, a prospect and a 2nd for Cammy.

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06-10-2014, 06:37 PM
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Saw the title and was hoping we were shopping a top 6 for one of OUR D. Disappointed.
You were disappointed.....I thought it said the Habs were shopping Nathan Fournier for a top 6 D.

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Bergevin praised Plekanec in his last PC. He's a leader who's reliable in every situation. He is one of the hardest worker of the team. There's no way you trade a guy like him unless some team overpays.

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...he's not saying that...the Gallys wouldn't and shouldn't even enter anyone's head here, because noone in their right mind would even consider trading either...
No one in their right mind should put those types of limitations on any player.

Every single player in the organization should always be available.

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Does this mean they're considering not having Markov coming back?

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06-10-2014, 06:40 PM
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The D they're looking for better have some puck skills.

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Just listened to it again:

- Players need to agree with the system
- He says that MAYBE there will be some big surprises.
- If the players don't want to accept the way that Therrien coaches, MAYBE the Habs will make 1 or 2 trades that will surprise the hockey world.
- There will PROBABLY be a headline, that will say that a guy from the core left for this and that player. "Let's remember that conversation" Fournier says.
- There will be a trade. There will be a trade. There will be a trade.
- Either a big guy on the first line or a #3 d-man 'cause Markov SHOULD sign
- Gorges is #6 next year. But there are teams that are interested in him right now
- Time to move on from players. "This is MY OPINION" says Fournier.
- Weaver: He needs to be considered. He's great competitor, playoff guy.
- Goalies: Tokarski is a trade asset. But if we are able to get that #1 forward on the first line, we will add Tokarski on a trade to make that trade possible. Budaj should be #2 next year.
- "There's plenty of teams that want the player I'm talking about". They won't believe he's available. The guy I'm talking about is in his prime. And had a great season".
- We're talking about a player that plays on the first 2 lines but you're going to acquire a top d-man that could play on the powerplay.
- "I didn't talk to Marc Bergevin" "But he's looking to improve his team".
- "I won't say the name" But when Langlois asked him "Is it Pleks"? Fournier says immediately...NO. but then add I won't say the name.

Not going to repeat what was said for White, Leblanc and the rest....

FRANKLY, this looks more like a wishlist than inside infos. But CLEARLY, Fournier is targetting Pacioretty as he insists with the fact that we're looking for warriors and great competitors in the playoffs.
Just listen to it also.....clearly he's talking about Pacioretty.
Mayby Plekanec but he refer to that player as a "star player"....

A player that don't like the system or Therrien....don't sound like Plekanec at All.

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No one in their right mind should put those types of limitations on any player.

Every single player in the organization should always be available.
Mike Milbury sure thought so.

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Bergevin praised Plekanec in his last PC. He's a leader who's reliable in every situation. He is one of the hardest worker of the team. There's no way you trade a guy like him unless some team overpays.
Good point.

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Does this mean they're considering not having Markov coming back?
If Gorges is penciled in as the #6, I'd assume Markov is still in the plans.

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My guess is Pleks, for who?? not a clue.

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Just listen to it also.....clearly he's talking about Pacioretty.
Mayby Plekanec but he refer to that player as a "star player"....

A player that don't like the system or Therrien....don't sound like Plekanec at All.
Plekanec hasn't exactly thrived under Therrien. He was VERY bad offensively this year too.

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Mike Milbury sure thought so.
Don't even know where you're going with this - Milbury was a bad GM and made terrible deals, but that has nothing to do with my statement.

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No It wasn't and your conjecture is only that.

The man who made the trade was Sideshow Bob Gainey and you can't prove otherwise whereas there is a mountain of proof that it was him.

Gauthier got Eller for Halak and Bork, a prospect and a 2nd for Cammy.
Don't forget the 2nd for AKOST.

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The D they're looking for better have some puck skills.
They do have Beaulieu with some of these skills right? There's got to be a logic behind low balling Markov while shopping for another D and I don't think it's "We can find a better puck mover by trading".

What they always lacked on D is a big Right Handed dman who can make a presence in front of Price. (e.g. Gudbranson, hehe, ok maybe Demers too)

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Plekanec hasn't exactly thrived under Therrien. He was VERY bad offensively this year too.
Plekanec has clearly bought into the system though.

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Don't even know where you're going with this - Milbury was a bad GM and made terrible deals, but that has nothing to do with my statement.
Maybe he just means Milbury thought he should beat them all with their own shoes? Or just shove their kids?

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Impact forward on top 6? There are only two, MaxPac and Plek.
Trading either one could fetch them a solid Dman. So, I guess it makes sense for either one.
Max just scored 39 goals and is one of the best contracts in the NHL. Losing would also hurt us badly up front especially looking at our weak wing depth. Doesn't make much sense.

Plek, a lot of people suspected he'd be the odd man out. I'd put my money on him.
Eller did good in the POs, was good last year, he's clearly more of the same mold, so I could see them try to move Plek. He could also fetch a pretty good D, so it will depend on that.

Fournier has never been an insider, so not sure how much I buy into this. The only french dude I give credit to is Renaud Lavoie. So if it's not coming from him, I don't believe it.

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Anybody has a link to hear what he said?

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Don't even know where you're going with this - Milbury was a bad GM and made terrible deals, but that has nothing to do with my statement.
Sorry, I forgot to put a sarcasm smiley.

I guess my joke meant that Milbury always thought there was someone somewhere else that was better than what he had, currently, no matter the price. Wasn't meant to be serious.

Edit: Although I will admit that I would have a hard time labelling everyone as available. I know it's semantics, but at some point I would have to close my ears when hearing about certain players on my squad. Gotta be convinced of your foundation at some point, otherwise you will never be.

As for the topic at hand, I hope it is not Patches. I don't think he is the kind of guy that can lead a team, yet I also don't think he should be expected to at $4.5 mill a season.

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Let Markov walk, trade Plek and DD for D, sign Stastny.

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Anybody has a link to hear what he said?
Around the 7:00 mark and up.

http://www.985fm.ca/lecteur/audio/le...-se-227705.mp3

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Habs only have one 1st liner and IMO they aren't stupid enough to trade Pacioretty. I don't think the coaching staff and he have a rift as he even said that the coaches were happy with his play away from puck at the post season interviews. Desharnais' is basically teacher's pet so can't be him. Plekanec is used in all situations so can't be him.

Is it Briere/Bourque?

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If MB is even thinking about trading Pacioretty who's his teams only legit goal scoring forward on a team that doesn't score much, there better be one hell of a return coming back is all I have to say. Just don't be stupid and trade Subban is all I ask.

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