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06-10-2014, 06:52 PM
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I hope it's not Pacioretty.... Maybe if it was for a top-pairing guy.

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Just don't be stupid and trade Subban is all I ask.
To be fair, Bergevin wouldn't be stupid so much as dead if this were to happen.

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A package of one of the Centers for a #2 D is my guess.

That would slot Markov in the second pairing and would make it much better.

Any teams that have expendables D's that they would be willing to trade ?

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I have no problem trading Pacioretty in a package. No problem at all. But only if I have a Trouba-Kane return.

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Habs only have one 1st liner and IMO they aren't stupid enough to trade Pacioretty. I don't think the coaching staff and he have a rift as he even said that the coaches were happy with his play away from puck at the post season interviews. Desharnais' is basically teacher's pet so can't be him. Plekanec is used in all situations so can't be him.

Is it Briere/Bourque?
Fournier is CLEARLY talking about Pacioretty. But he's not talking about him as something he heard from the Habs brass. He's going on a guess here based on Pacioretty's playoffs performance.

By the way guys, not saying nothing will ever happened, but for the record, Fournier DOES do that from time to time.....Get some infos out, he makes it seems as if it's coming from the team but it really never was and nothing happens...

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I have no problem trading Pacioretty in a package. No problem at all. But only if I have a Trouba-Kane return.
I'd drive Pacioretty to the airport for that package.

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Sorry, I forgot to put a sarcasm smiley.

I guess my joke meant that Milbury always thought there was someone somewhere else that was better than what he had, currently, no matter the price. Wasn't meant to be serious.

Edit: Although I will admit that I would have a hard time labelling everyone as available. I know it's semantics, but at some point I would have to close my ears when hearing about certain players on my squad. Gotta be convinced of your foundation at some point, otherwise you will never be.

As for the topic at hand, I hope it is not Patches. I don't think he is the kind of guy that can lead a team, yet I also don't think he should be expected to at $4.5 mill a season.
There's being happy with your foundation and then there's being silly and not listening. 99.9% of the time you'll never get an offer that should make you budge on a Galchenyuk.

But there's always a Bob Gainey or Mike Milbury waiting to happen.

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"1 ou 2 transactions qui pourrait surprendre le monde du hockey" means pacioretty imo, we dont have any other forwards (unless were talking about galchenyuk or gallagher who are untouchables) that could achieve that

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If we are trading patches we better be getting Weber or a top pairing D back.

It would make 0 sense though.

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I wonder though what kind of package we could offer to get our hands on Bogosian.

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I wonder though what kind of package we could offer to get our hands on Bogosian.
it better not have anything to do with pacioretty, unless kane or wheeler are coming back aswell

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Fournier is hinting at Pleks getting trading and us signing Stastny I am sure of it.

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I predict a Eller for Volchenkov-ish trade, which would be hilariously sad
If this actually happened, I would quit hockey. Seriously. Straight up gum and patch that **** and get over this addiction of pucks and ice that nearly kills me every year.

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Habs only have one 1st liner and IMO they aren't stupid enough to trade Pacioretty. I don't think the coaching staff and he have a rift as he even said that the coaches were happy with his play away from puck at the post season interviews. Desharnais' is basically teacher's pet so can't be him. Plekanec is used in all situations so can't be him.

Is it Briere/Bourque?


Probably Galchenyuk. He did not play well defensively and could be the player Therrien is referring to regarding not buying into the system.

Galchenyuk and his potential could bring back a top 4 DMan.

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Fournier is hinting at Pleks getting trading and us signing Stastny I am sure of it.
But why Stastny? He'd much rather go to Toronto, for like 6m+ no? Can we afford or fit him?

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Fournier is hinting at Pleks getting trading and us signing Stastny I am sure of it.
He said no to Plekanec immediately.

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Probably Galchenyuk. He did not play well defensively and could be the player Therrien is referring to regarding not buying into the system.

Galchenyuk and his potential could bring back a top 4 DMan.


That would be even more stupid than trading Patches (or at least close to it).

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Probably Galchenyuk. He did not play well defensively and could be the player Therrien is referring to regarding not buying into the system.

Galchenyuk and his potential could bring back a top 4 DMan.
...Galchenyuk is not going anywhere unless, like One Man Rock Band says, Bergevin finds a Milbury in the rough willing to pay through the nose for him...

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The only one who I can think of who has reached the end of the road in Montreal is Plekanec or Desharnais - but we all know DD won't be dealt.

At least they realize there's a big hole on D. As I've said, we're pretty much Subban and then a bunch of #4 - depth defensemen.

If it's Galchenyuk I would be ****ing infuriated.

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He sure sounds like someone confident in what he is saying (he really looks like hes talking about paccioretty)....never been a fan of Ron...knowing where bergevin comes from id be rather surprised if he dealt paches. Hes a big believer in building steadily trough the draft and bringing along the young players and prospects.

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he keeps mentioning "impact players", how many impact forwards does montreal have?
pacioretty is the only player that fits the bill but trading one of the most valuable goal/point producing forwards per $ in the league is a dangerous path to go down


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No It wasn't and your conjecture is only that.

The man who made the trade was Sideshow Bob Gainey and you can't prove otherwise whereas there is a mountain of proof that it was him.

Gauthier got Eller for Halak and Bork, a prospect and a 2nd for Cammy.
He also gave the Flames Ramo in trade which based on what guys like Scrivens/Berra/Fasth were getting was worth at least 3rd/2nd, lost Wisniewski, Moore for nothing after trading 2nd+ for them. Lost Pouliot, S.Kostitsyn, Lapierre for nothing despite them having success immediately after leaving. Acquired compliance buyout candidates in Kaberle/Cole with no concern of long term cap issues, reduced managerial staff numbers significantly in favour of keeping Gainey beside him (that he apparently disagreed with a lot as Assistant GM) despite having a high amount of money available to surround himself with good people, overall respect for Habs was never lower getting to the point of everything being a joke, and GM'd one of worst seasons team had in history (of course this means little since a bunch of excuses only exclusive to Gauthier can be applied).

Gotta love those mediocre feats of:
1. trading a super hyped goalie at the time for a prospect that developed to be minimum 3rd liner/hopefully more
2. getting potential compliance buyout+2nd round pick for a forward that can produce 1st line type production regular season and playoffs + Flames current starting goalie
3. deciding to sell pending UFA at the deadline as any team that is in a lottery pick position does...

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That would be even more stupid than trading Patches (or at least close to it).
I am not saying that it is the right thing to do for the Habs.

We are all playing the guessing game here.

Strictly looking at "Therrien's system", it revolves around defense first responsibility for the forwards.

Max was a +8 for the Regular season. Galchenyuk was a -12.

To get back talent on the backend, you have to give up talent.

Again, not saying that it is the right move for the Habs to make.

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If this actually happened, I would quit hockey. Seriously. Straight up gum and patch that **** and get over this addiction of pucks and ice that nearly kills me every year.
Really? Quit hockey because of Lars Eller? What the **** is with this board and Lars ****ing Eller?

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The only kind of D-man we trade for is a top 2, otherwise there is no point. Edler ?

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