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Mike Richards is not expected to be bought out

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06-11-2014, 10:51 PM
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Really? I thought the Kings would want to re-sign both or at least one of them? no?
We have to let at least one go McNabb is out of options He would have to go thru waivers to be put in the ahl. I seriously doubt he would clear as he has over a 100 mph shot and hits like a frieght train Boderchuk has one of the best + - ratio in the ahl hes as ready as he ll ever be. There is also Campbell who got a few games this year and was pretty solid imo. Kings could go cheap if they felt like it.

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06-12-2014, 12:01 AM
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In game 4 of the stanley cup after 2 periods he has 3:50 of even strength time on ice. The only two players on both teams that have less even strength toi are lewis and clifford...his line mates. The guy is a 4th liner
Why do you only name his even strength numbers and fail to see he still is a good pen killer and plays on 2nd pp unit.

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06-12-2014, 02:57 AM
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Why are people thinking there's any chance Richards is bought out?

-He's helped lead them to a game away from 2 Stanley Cups in 3 years since joining

-Buying him out would upset the chemistry of the team (seems to be one of their leaders)

-Buying him out would piss off Carter which would hurt the team if his production falls off.

It just makes no sense at this point to buy him out. We should have this discussion in a few years from now.

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06-12-2014, 07:54 AM
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I wonder if Richards would mind a 3rd Centre roll in Pittsburgh? Kings would have to absorb some cap though to make that work. Still, having Crosby-Malkin-Richards down the middle through 2020 would be solid.

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06-12-2014, 07:56 AM
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I wonder if Richards would mind a 3rd Centre roll in Pittsburgh? Kings would have to absorb some cap though to make that work. Still, having Crosby-Malkin-Richards down the middle through 2020 would be solid.
And why would the Kings take on some of his cap hit? If they want to get rid of him they will either trade him at full cap hit or buy him out. They however seem to be happy with him on the team.

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According to Darren Dreger the Jets are not returning to Winnipeg

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06-12-2014, 08:40 AM
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The biggest thing going for the Kings is their character.

They got this far into the playoff because of their close knit locker room and the leadership within them. They do not have cap issue and I don't see how they go messing around with the chemistry by dealing away one of the biggest leader (and winner as DL put it) so they can save a few bucks

Sure, Richards is not scoring like he was, but the Kings are building a perennial contender, not some fantasy team and there's more to a player than his stat. Many people here would put a lot of emphasis on him not scoring 70 pts, but I put just as much emphasis on the fact that he took Gaborik out to breakfast to make the guy feels welcome. And you need THIS on your team

So, I have not seen a very good reason why the Kings should deal/release Mike Richards except that he might be ruining someone fantasy team


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06-12-2014, 09:01 AM
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The general idea is that theoretically they could use the cap space better.

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06-12-2014, 09:05 AM
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The buyout rumours sounded ridiculous anyway. Richards is still a productive (relative to his ice-time and linemates) player in this league who's a leader full of character.

If a team does get him this off-season, though, I'll assume he'll work extra hard to prove his doubters wrong. He's only 29.

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06-12-2014, 09:16 AM
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While I maintain that a pragmatist should be in favor of buying Richards out, calling him a fourth line center is a bit of a stretch. He got demoted there, but he still put up .5 PPG. That number doesn't necessarily go down just because he's 29. He's not signed until he's 40 either, so he won't be retiring out of his contract.

Realistically, LA's problems will be two years down the road, but who knows where the cap will be then. It could be approaching 80 which would make Richards's deal only about 7% of their cap. That's hardly the worst albatross a contending team has had on its roster.
I agree with your post.
Plus lets say two years down the road they look at moving him there will still be a young team out there that will want a veteran centre. He will always have enough value to be traded.
I maintain that it is up to Richards. If he does not approve of how he has been surpassed on the depth chart in LA he could want out. That is the only time Dean moves him.

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06-12-2014, 09:17 AM
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The general idea is that theoretically they could use the cap space better.
On whom this offseason though. They will have enough space to keep Gabby and Richards. What LA could use is a LHD but there is not a plethora of those this year anyway.
LA is better keeping him

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06-12-2014, 12:22 PM
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There's no way Richards wouldn't be able to return fair trade value. If LA, for whatever reason, decides he has to go, I can think of many teams that'd easily give up something to get him, regardless of his cap and production. No chance we see Richards bought out, IMO.

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Mike Richards has a free pass in LA. We do things differently here.

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06-13-2014, 02:54 PM
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While I don't think it's mistake no matter which decision they make (arguments can certainly be made for both), can people stop using the "Carter will pout" BS as a legitimate reason to keep him?

Nobody's play or morale will decline because his friend got traded. That's ridiculous. Carter is only known to be a "pouter" because he took it hard getting traded to Columbus. Why the F do we have any reason to believe he'll hold it against the Kings for cutting Richards loose?

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how does a 4th line center with a 5.75 million dollar cap hit for the next 5 years have value?
the cap is going up quite a bit in the next few years, his contract isnt as bad as it appears right now

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06-13-2014, 03:25 PM
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At least someone gets it. And Lombardi is not going to trade him.....

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Well duh.

If LA is really that strapped on the salary cap, Richards still has good value...

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06-13-2014, 04:10 PM
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Well duh.

If LA is really that strapped on the salary cap, Richards still has good value...
La has 12 to 14 million in cap space to resign 5 roster spots. La isn't cap straped at all gaborik and king will be signed for less then 8 million of the 12 McNabb replaces greene less then a million Vey less then a million *13th forward which leaves over 2 (min)million for Mitchell to resign or be replaced.

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Think the Kings would be interested in Gagner for Richards? Helps the Kings cap situation for the next two years. And then no commitments after that. Plus we know the Kings had some interest in Gagner previously.

I also really think Gagner could thrive under some consistent coaching without having to babysit rookies all the time.
Kings dont have a cap situation...in fact their laughing all the way to the stanley cup with a ton of cap space available..and all their core players stil under contract.

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Kings dont have a cap situation...in fact their laughing all the way to the stanley cup with a ton of cap space available..and all their core players stil under contract.
Their cap situation would be improved. It's a fact. $4.8 is less than $5.875

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Their cap situation would be improved. It's a fact. $4.8 is less than $5.875
its worth the extra million not to have gagner to me Richards is the better player in all areas

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06-13-2014, 05:39 PM
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Richards is set to make 5.75 million annually. If that cap continues to rise, which it will, his effective cap-hit decreases which makes his "burden" almost inconsequential. If you don't believe me, take a look at what Parise makes, and what he brings to the table. Wait to see what Callahan and Vanek make. So on and so forth.

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Richards is still valuable in the locker room and can chip in points. He's had a pretty abysmal year but I doubt any core player is moved any time soon considering the run the Kings are on.

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La has 12 to 14 million in cap space to resign 5 roster spots. La isn't cap straped at all gaborik and king will be signed for less then 8 million of the 12 McNabb replaces greene less then a million Vey less then a million *13th forward which leaves over 2 (min)million for Mitchell to resign or be replaced.
I know, I'm saying if they really needed cap space, they could trade Richards instead of buying him out.

A team like Florida, or Calgary would take his enitre cap hit.

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the cap is going up quite a bit in the next few years, his contract isnt as bad as it appears right now
Not with a 89-92 cent Canadian dollar.

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