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Do you disapprove of children born out of wedlock?

View Poll Results: Do you have an issue with children born to unmarried couples?
Yes, I think the parents should always be married 7 6.67%
No, it doesn't make a difference 98 93.33%
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06-12-2014, 11:54 AM
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Do you disapprove of children born out of wedlock?

I'm watching the Friends episode where Rachel gives birth. Ross' mother turns up while she's in labour and tries to get him to marry her. As the child of unmarried people I've always been slightly bemused when I see people making a big deal out of it in TV shows and stuff so, is this a big deal? Does it change your opinion of people, either the offspring or the parents?

(inb4 I have bad taste in television)

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No, why would one?

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Having a ring on one's finger doesn't convey magical properties that makes someone a better parent, so no... don't care at all.

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No but having a supportive farther or two supportive parents (if they're gay and they adopted) is important.

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It's indeed not the fault of the child but of the parents.

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No but having a supportive farther or two supportive parents (if they're gay and they adopted) is important.
He didn't write anything at all about single parent households, he was asking about unmarried couples.

Also, there are many cases where both parents are extremely supportive of their kids even though they are divorced. And there are many cases where both parents are in the home and the child is in a living hell.


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Don't necessarily agree with the Poll options, because I think it does "make a difference", but absolutely parents shouldn't have to be married, and sometimes it's absolutely better for the children if the parents don't actually live together if the relationship between the parents is inharmonious.

The best scenario though is plain and simple: Just don't have kids if you're not absolutely sure, with some time living together, that you're compatible as a couple and ready together to take the next step of having children. But even that doesn't mean that you have to go through the formality of getting married.


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He didn't write anything at all about single parent households, he was asking about unmarried couples.
Wow thanks for that, any more pearls of wisdom Captain Idiot?

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This is actually a question in 2014?

It is most beneficial that a child have both parents in their life but a wedding ring or a piece of paper doesn't magically make that so. There are plenty of divorced parents successfully co-parenting their children at the same time parents who are still married to each other and living in the same house who are emotionally absent.

It's certainly NOT a child's fault as to the circumstances of their birth. It's not like they had any choice whether their parents were wearing wedding rings and legally bound at the time of their conception or not.

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Wow thanks for that, any more pearls of wisdom Captain Idiot?
I don't know, do you have any further of your own on offer?

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I disapprove a lot more of what Joey did, when he made Rachel think that he proposed with Ross's ring.

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This is actually a question in 2014?

It is most beneficial that a child have both parents in their life but a wedding ring or a piece of paper doesn't magically make that so. There are plenty of divorced parents successfully co-parenting their children at the same time parents who are still married to each other and living in the same house who are emotionally absent.

It's certainly NOT a child's fault as to the circumstances of their birth. It's not like they had any choice whether their parents were wearing wedding rings and legally bound at the time of their conception or not.
The question shouldn't be about being married in order to have kids, but being sure that you're prepared to handle the responsibility of having kids. There are married couples who aren't at all really prepared for having children.

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Reminds me of an episode of the Jetsons where it turns out the parents (George and Jane?) are not officially married because the priest who married them was a fraud

Or something like that

Then the children FEEL THE SHAME

Looking back on it, it was a pretty terrible message for such a family-friendly show. We're much better off today

As for the matter on hand

No, I really don't care

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I haven't seen Phil post on this subforum in a while

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poll is badly worded. I don't disapprove of the child at all, but it's been clearly proven that children with parents in a stable relationship do better than the alternative. Whether a marriage makes for a stable relationship is up for debate...

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poll is badly worded. I don't disapprove of the child at all, but it's been clearly proven that children with parents in a stable relationship do better than the alternative. Whether a marriage makes for a stable relationship is up for debate...
Yeah, this is pretty much exactly how I feel. Why would I judge the kid regardless? Though I do think it's best to have two committed parents to raise a child.

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Paging Big Phil...
You stole my post. This is right up his alley.

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Paging Big Phil...
Earlier, I figured for sure Big Phil was the single vote on the Yes side. Now I see there are 2 votes on the Yes side. Big Phil could "silently" be one of them.


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It certainly speaks to the maturity level of the parents. Usually if the parents aren't married there isn't any stability for the child and any incentive for both parties to give their "mistake" a decent upbringing. The parents likely won't stick around and these usually young mothers are ill-equipped to raise a kid on their own especially at such a tender age. This has become a huge problem in America today and facilitates a cycle of bad child development. I'm not saying these sutuations can never work out, but they are rare.

As for the child, it does nothing to devalue them, however it does create some early adversity in not having stable parents to look up to. In any case it is always beneficial for everyone involved to have children after marriage, where there is evidence that mom and dad are committed to each other.

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