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Oilers Gearing Up Big Push for Phaneuf

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06-14-2014, 01:54 PM
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Toronto
Sam Gagner
3rd Overall

Edmonton
Dion Phaneuf
Nazem Kadri
Leafs would never do this, especially when their trading Kadri too. Replace Gagner with Eberle/Yakupov or something without negative value and they probably would.

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06-14-2014, 01:55 PM
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I wouldn't mind Phaneuf on the Oilers but I wouldn't give up the 3rd overall for him.

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Toronto
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3rd Overall

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Dion Phaneuf
Nazem Kadri
Absolutely not.

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Would rather go for Myers.

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Leafs would never do this, especially when their trading Kadri too. Replace Gagner with Eberle/Yakupov or something without negative value and they probably would.
Then you would have to add substantially.

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06-14-2014, 02:02 PM
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To Edmonton:
Phaneuf (1mil/year salary retained)

To Toronto:
Joe Thorton

To San Jose:
Yakupov, Schultz


Who declines?

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To Edmonton:
Phaneuf (1mil/year salary retained)

To Toronto:
Joe Thorton

To San Jose:
Yakupov, Schultz


Who declines?
The Oilers.

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06-14-2014, 02:05 PM
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I have a feeling if a Phaneuf trade happened with Edmonton and it's in fact the Oilers making a big push for phaneuf that they may overpay. A player like Gagner is not considered making a big push. It would be bigger then that and Oilers fans are going to be pissed.

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06-14-2014, 02:08 PM
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I have a feeling if a Phaneuf trade happened with Edmonton and it's in fact the Oilers making a big push for phaneuf that they may overpay. A player like Gagner is not considered making a big push. It would be bigger then that and Oilers fans are going to be pissed.
I don't know if Oilers fans will be pissed but proposing value for value trades won't change Nonis' mind IMO. If I had to speculate on value, I'd say it would be Phaneuf for the 3rd overall + prospect/pick (and maybe salary coming back).

The Oilers will undoubtedly get better with Phaneuf and may have some more moves up their sleeves if they acquire him.

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06-14-2014, 02:09 PM
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Is getting Myers really out of our reach?
Would we really have to give up that more more for him than we do to get Dion?

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06-14-2014, 02:10 PM
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I think Phaneuf is a very likely target for Edmonton, but with that in mind, I can't see them parting with the 3rd overall in a deal for him.

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Is getting Myers really out of our reach?
Would we really have to give up that more more for him than we do to get Dion?
I don't know why we would even want Myers. The guy is horrible. I'd much rather have Phaneuf.

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06-14-2014, 02:13 PM
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Although Dion is underrated on this board, I do think this is bad for Edmonton. Dion is a very good defenceman but he will get eaten alive and thrown under the bus on such a terrible defensive team. Dion needs to be beside an Edler or a Staal to really shine. He needs support. Put him in the right situation, though, and i think he's still a top 15 dman in this league.

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To Edmonton:
Phaneuf (1mil/year salary retained)

To Toronto:
Joe Thorton

To San Jose:
Yakupov, Schultz


Who declines?
Schultz and Yak for Dion? Oiler say no

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06-14-2014, 02:13 PM
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Lol, great news for Canuck fans. Phaneuf is a born loser. Dumber than a bag of hammers.

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Schultz and Yak for Dion? Oiler say no
Oilers must add

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06-14-2014, 02:16 PM
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Dion and 8th for #3 would be stupidity by Nonis. There is no one in this draft garunteed to be as good as dion and the best D who is also the best chance to be better or as good will be gone by 3rd.

Dion and something (percy maybe ? ) might get the deal done. I do not see the Leafs giving up their hopes of making the playoffs and dumping #8 at the same time. It only makes sense if we are having the two picks.

Even the hockey news pointed out that Dions Corsi numbers when put in to perspective with who he is matched up against makes him look pretty good. His offensive numbers have declined because of his defensive role, not to a loss in talent.

There is no better defenseman that we know of being shopped (dan boyle ? , not likely to sign with the oil) and no one close coming as a free agent. Low ball Dion all you want but he has decent value . Stop kidding yourselves if you think you are doing Toronto a favour by taking him, only our least informed fans would believe that and they are usually the ones who annoy you all with their stupid trade proposals.

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06-14-2014, 02:17 PM
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I'm sure Edmonton would try and unload Gagner on us. I'd expect an offer looking like Gagner plus their first for Dion plus a prospect.

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06-14-2014, 02:18 PM
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To Edmonton:
Phaneuf (1mil/year salary retained)

To Toronto:
Joe Thorton

To San Jose:
Yakupov, Schultz


Who declines?
Oilers get bent. Try much, much harder.

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As much as I think Phaneuf is a complete tool of a person, he must be the single most underrated player on HFboards. The guy plays the hardest minutes in the NHL on a terrible team, and people laugh and ridicule because he doesn't shut everyone down.

Toronto is asking him to be their Duncan Keith or Drew Doughty. Considering the fact that he isn't Doughty or Keith, the only outcome for Phaneuf is failure. How people don't see that Phaneuf is in absolutely no position to succeed is too difficult for me to understand.

He's not an elite defenseman. But if you're playing him in the proper role, you're going to get a very good player.

In this thread, I'm actually seeing people suggesting the 8th + Phaneuf for the third pick. How much better than Phaneuf do you people think Ekblad is going to be? I have doubts that he is ever as good as Phaneuf.
While I agree with all of this, he is getting paid like an elite #1. Therein lies the problem. Only 10 D make 6 million. And he makes 7 million which is tied for 5th in the league.

And he should play some of the hardest minutes if he us paid like one and a #1. If not him, then who else on your team should?

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I don't know if Oilers fans will be pissed but proposing value for value trades won't change Nonis' mind IMO. If I had to speculate on value, I'd say it would be Phaneuf for the 3rd overall + prospect/pick (and maybe salary coming back).

The Oilers will undoubtedly get better with Phaneuf and may have some more moves up their sleeves if they acquire him.
The oilers will get better on the back end with Dion for sure but to me these are two teams that want to make a big splash this summer and I wouldn't rule out a monster trade with these two teams.

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Wow if this happens Edmonton's d core of the future looks very promising.

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While I agree with all of this, he is getting paid like an elite #1. Therein lies the problem. Only 10 D make 6 million. And he makes 7 million which is tied for 5th in the league.

And he should play some of the hardest minutes if he us paid like one and a #1. If not him, then who else on your team should?
Just wait. Contracts will be getting more expensive, and the yearly cap hits will skyrocket now that teams can't cheat. If all of the current D signed their deals today under the current CBA, 7 million would be just slightly higher than what Dion deserves.

that contract will get better with time. It will never be a good deal but people will come around to seeing why it isn't a huge blunder when today's young defence start getting 8.5x8

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06-14-2014, 02:25 PM
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While I agree with all of this, he is getting paid like an elite #1. Therein lies the problem. Only 10 D make 6 million. And he makes 7 million which is tied for 5th in the league.

And he should play some of the hardest minutes if he us paid like one and a #1. If not him, then who else on your team should?
Phaneuf's deal is fine considering the cap circumventing deals handed out and the fact that the salary will be increasing significantly. His deal will look normal to most people after the next free agency or two. He was paid market value IMO.

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To Edmonton:
Phaneuf (1mil/year salary retained)

To Toronto:
Joe Thorton

To San Jose:
Yakupov, Schultz


Who declines?


from a leafs fan,


Toronto says no


Oilers break a desk with their fists

sharks squeel like girls and head for the hills with their new toys

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