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08-29-2014, 11:57 AM
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NHL.com 30-in-30

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=7...d=nhl:topheads
Rebuilding
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=7...d=nhl:topheads
five questions
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=7...d=nhl:topheads
Goal tending, roster
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=7...d=nhl:topheads
top prospects
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=7...d=nhl:topheads
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Annual "we think we know what's happening with the Sharks"

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08-29-2014, 12:06 PM
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Those prospect rankings... Yikes. Doherty at 2? Boudreau at 4, ahead of Tierney, Abeltshauser, and about 10 other guys?

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You gotta hand it to DW, no one can mislead national media like he can.

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You gotta hand it to DW, no one can mislead national media like he can.
I don't know, his staff is pretty great at it as well.

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If Doug Wilson was half as good at building a Cup winner as he was at confusing the national media, we'd have 14 Cups by now. Some years they'd award the Sharks two or even three, just because DW would fool them into thinking they'd forgotten or something.

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Everyone has forgotten about Fedun

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Dan Rosen picked the Sharks to miss the playoffs due to the offseason "drama" and "confusion". We still have Thornton and Marleau, along with the potential for some of our rookie D men to come in and do a better job than the atrocious play of Dan Boyle and Brad Stuart last season.

Regular season wins come to the Sharks like disappointment comes to our playoff hopes every year. So my question is who exactly is supposed to come in and take the Sharks playoff spot? Vancouver? Edmonton? Phoenix?

What a joke...

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08-29-2014, 05:17 PM
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"We watched 5 games and the playoffs last year. We know the Sharks inside and out"

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no real news here in anyway, just their opinion on our prospect ratings.

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08-29-2014, 05:48 PM
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Dan Rosen picked the Sharks to miss the playoffs due to the offseason "drama" and "confusion". We still have Thornton and Marleau, along with the potential for some of our rookie D men to come in and do a better job than the atrocious play of Dan Boyle and Brad Stuart last season.

Regular season wins come to the Sharks like disappointment comes to our playoff hopes every year. So my question is who exactly is supposed to come in and take the Sharks playoff spot? Vancouver? Edmonton? Phoenix?

What a joke...
There were a few people who thought we'd miss out on the playoffs last year too. For essentially the same reasons as ever.

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Everyone has forgotten about Fedun
Probably because he's a 26 year old injury-ridden career AHLer.

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FWIW, SiriusXM NHL Radio Power Play ranked Sharks 6th in league (preseaon rankings) today.

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Call me crazy but, even though #2 is too high, I view Doherty as a top 10 prospect for the Sharks. I know he's left the Worcester crew wanting more (or nothing at all) but he does have an enticing blend of size and skill. I expected this guy to come along slowly and if Robinson is excited about this guy...that's enough validation for me.

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Robinson was also really high on Petrecki. I like Petrecki too, and thought he could crack an NHL lineup with his size and skill, even as a third pairing guy, but he doesn't have the hockey iq to get it done.

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Probably because he's a 26 year old injury-ridden career AHLer.
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TRANSACTIONS / INJURIES / SUSPENSIONS
2014/07/01 Signed as an unrestricted free agent by the San Jose Sharks to a one-year contract.
2014/06/30 Edmonton Oilers did not tender a qualifying offer.
2013/11/12 Assigned to Oklahoma City (AHL).
2013/11/04 Recalled from Oklahoma City (AHL).
2013/09/24 Assigned to Oklahoma City (AHL).
2013/07/25 Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the Edmonton Oilers to a one-year contract.
2013/07/02 Edmonton Oilers tendered a qualifying offer.
2013/01/17 Assigned to Oklahoma City (AHL).
2013/01/14 Recalled from Oklahoma City (AHL).
2012/09/15 Assigned to Oklahoma City (AHL).
2012/04/07 Missed all 82 games of the regular season (broken right leg).
2011/10/05 Broken right leg, injured reserve.
2011/03/08 Signed as a free agent by the Edmonton Oilers to a two-year entry-level contract.
Injury riddled....

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Injury riddled....
I was referring to the broken leg. But really, the 26 year old career AHLer part was the most important. He's basically an unproven Irwin. And everyone hates Irwin.

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Probably because he's a 26 year old injury-ridden career AHLer.
Hes shown flashes of excellence in the NHL... on Edmonton.

Already better than Irwin defensively, but isn't really close offensively.

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Hes shown flashes of excellence in the NHL... on Edmonton.

Already better than Irwin defensively, but isn't really close offensively.
You're using "excellence" very liberally.

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All this talk about excellence just makes me think of this


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Call me crazy but, even though #2 is too high, I view Doherty as a top 10 prospect for the Sharks. I know he's left the Worcester crew wanting more (or nothing at all) but he does have an enticing blend of size and skill. I expected this guy to come along slowly and if Robinson is excited about this guy...that's enough validation for me.
Doherty's big issue is "hockey smarts". He has very little of it. He's nowhere as bad as Petrecki in that area, but he's far behind what most would consider what an NHL defenseman needs. Many say it's his angles to the puck (and onrushing forwards) that are bad, but that's only a symptom of a bigger issue. He has absolutely no puck anticipation at all, and because he's slow he often fails to react in time to do anything about it.

I'm OK with a guy that big not being a huge physical presence, we've seen enough NHL caliber defensemen over the years that don't play that way. But all the successful non-physical defensemen bring a skill set with them that overcomes their deficiencies in that area. Doherty has not shown anything to make me believe he has any skill that will bring him to the NHL.


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Robinson was also really high on Petrecki. I like Petrecki too, and thought he could crack an NHL lineup with his size and skill, even as a third pairing guy, but he doesn't have the hockey iq to get it done.
Petrecki's biggest issue is he's unteachable, and frequently makes the wrong decisions and rarely learns from his own mistakes. What really bothers me is many times he looked like he finally got it all together and had that "I'm ready for the big time" aura about him, only to turn back into the "old" Nick Petrecki and headed back to square one.

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Robinson was also really high on Petrecki. I like Petrecki too, and thought he could crack an NHL lineup with his size and skill, even as a third pairing guy, but he doesn't have the hockey iq to get it done.
Robinson is 'high' on several current and past Sharks d-men, I'm not sure him saying he likes someone really means a whole lot.

He's an "old school" hockey guy. He's a brilliant teacher but I think he has a blind spot for the big, hard hitting, crease clearing defensemen (in other words big defensive d-men) and the good NHL teams are moving away from that kind of one dimensional d-man.

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Hes shown flashes of excellence in the NHL... on Edmonton.

Already better than Irwin defensively, but isn't really close offensively.
Being better defensively when compared to Irwin isn't that hard to accomplish.

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