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09-05-2005, 01:58 PM
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Datsyuk signs in Russia, but with an out clause

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Datsyuk signs with Russian club


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9/5/2005 2:53:14 PM

MOSCOW - It appears that Pavel Datsyuk meant it when he set a Monday deadline in his talks with the Red Wings.

The restricted free agent signed a one-year contract with Russian club Avangard Omsk today.

The 27-year-old All-Star centre, who reportedly turned down a $5 million offer by Detroit was apparently looking for a deal of at least $6 million with the Red Wings.

"I think I am worth at least what (Dany) Heatley or (Joe) Thornton got from their deals," Datsyuk told the Russian media.

Datsyuk has a clause in his Avangard contract, allowing him to leave for the NHL midway through the season.

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A couple nice goals and he thinks he's a Dany Heatley and a Joe Thorton?
This kid will never be half the player these guys will be..

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i honestly think this is just more posturing set up by his agent. he still says "ive been told im worth" - he doesnt understand all this crap. just doing what the agent says to do - saying what the agent says to say. still a month to go.

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Worth Heatley money? Maybe (keep in mind Heatley's contract is a 3-year at $3.5m/$4.5m/$5.5m) ... but worth Thornton money? Who is he kidding?

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Oh my....he has been hyped up too much in Detroit or something to get crazy thoughts like that....First off, players of that calibre like Thornton would never hold out and proclaim they deserve more money, then compare themselves. This kid needs to grow up. I'm thinking his hotshot thinking has just turned alot of GM's off of this kid. I can only think of a few teams willing to pay for his services after saying **** like that, NYR, NYI, Pens and maybe the Leafs.

He is damn good, I'll give him that much...and before that statement I would have loved him in Edmonton.

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he is a super talented guy, just getting some bad agent advice. he's one of the new stars that the NHL needs in the new era....hopefully he'll be back with the Wings sooner rather than later......

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He's a big idiot for turning down $5 million. Bad decision.

Looks like the central is going to be even more wide open.

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I can only think of a few teams willing to pay for his services after saying **** like that, NYR, NYI, Pens and maybe the Leafs...
Can you elaborate on that?

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who is his agent?

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If you read the story, he has an out - at the middle of the season. They have him tied up until then I would say. I guess it will give the Wings some time to shed some salary - or trade the little weasel.

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He's a big idiot for turning down $5 million. Bad decision.

Looks like the central is going to be even more wide open.
if the wings offered him 5 millions per year, they are crazy too.

Which I don't think so.

damn russian players...

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who is his agent?
Greenstin. His other client Dmitry Bykov seems to be getting the same advice. Play in Russia until you're unrestricted and then see if teams will give you money. I don't think he realizes that not playing in the NHL will kill your value as an NHLer.

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I'd imagine Detroit has a little more expendable cash now, do you think they will enter the Bondra sweepstakes?

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What the hell is Datsyuk smoking ?

How could he possibly think he's worth the same as Naslund, Thornton and Hossa. And by turning down the $5M he just proves he's on something. Who could possibly think he's more valuable than Theodore, Luongo, Brodeur, Kovalev, Palffy, Satan, Heatley, Nash, Alfredsson, Bertuzzi, ... for god sake, Forsberg doesn't even make 6.

I for one congratulate Detroit on their stance. Firstly, for not allowing the players (agents) to hold them ransom and atleast attempting to maintain the stability of the new market/environment that took them a year to create. And second, because Ottawa's gonna have a player named Havlat (who I'd take over Datsyuk) become RFA again next year and there's no way in hell I'd want him to have a contract like the one Datsyuk wants to compare himself against because he'll outproduce Datsyuk easily.

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I'd imagine Detroit has a little more expendable cash now, do you think they will enter the Bondra sweepstakes?
Hope not. I want Holland to give Lou a helping hand in getting the Devils under the cap. Friesen and/or Langenbrunner would look nice flanking Zetterberg on the 2nd line.

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What the hell is Datsyuk smoking ?

How could he possibly think he's worth the same as Naslund, Thornton and Hossa. And by turning down the $5M he just proves he's on something. Who could possibly think he's more valuable than Theodore, Luongo, Brodeur, Kovalev, Palffy, Satan, Heatley, Nash, Alfredsson, Bertuzzi, ... for god sake, Forsberg doesn't even make 6.
Agreed.

Personally, I hardly see him worth much more than Pavol Demitra who makes $4.5 million. If the Wings were offering $5 mill., Datsyuk should have jumped on it.

Next year, the cap is likely to go down, so salaries should be even less. If he plays in Russia this year, his value will go even further south.

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Hope not. I want Holland to give Lou a helping hand in getting the Devils under the cap. Friesen and/or Langenbrunner would look nice flanking Zetterberg on the 2nd line.
That would be my preference too but Bondra can be had with no assets and I think Bondra and Lang have a good working relationship. Just a thought

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MOSCOW - It appears that Pavel Datsyuk meant it when he set a Monday deadline in his talks with the Red Wings.

The restricted free agent signed a one-year contract with Russian club Avangard Omsk today.

The 27-year-old All-Star centre, who reportedly turned down a $5 million offer by Detroit was apparently looking for a deal of at least $6 million with the Red Wings.

"I think I am worth at least what (Dany) Heatley or (Joe) Thornton got from their deals," Datsyuk told the Russian media.

Datsyuk has a clause in his Avangard contract, allowing him to leave for the NHL midway through the season.
Well, that's great! I'm sure every team would be happy to get a deal done that allows him to come over in mid-January. Of course, there's the problem of working out a transfer agreement, the fees involved, negotiating his salary for 1/2 a season, .... - all of which added together mean he won't be in the NHL in '05-06.

Detroit certainly isn't going to give him $3 million for half a season, and he's not going to get more than $2 million from anyone else unless said team is really desperate (in which case he'll use that angle to work for $5-6 million for the half-season, and again...no one is going to pay him that).

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Problem is, with new NHL rules, these guys will be even more valuable.

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does anybody know how much he is getting paid in russia?


datsyuk is not serious because there is an out clause. if he wanted to show the seriousness then he needs to sign a contract without a out clause.


let's say he is making 2 mil in russia. (my guess). it seems stupid for one to turn down an offer because he wants to make 1 mil more, yet decides to play elsewhere for 3 mil less than what is offered. illogical.

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That would be my preference too but Bondra can be had with no assets and I think Bondra and Lang have a good working relationship. Just a thought
Jersey is over the cap with players left to sign. It would take minimal assets to obtain a player or two.

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5 mill should have never been offered to him, thats stupid on hollands part, now zetterberg and hsi agent are gonna see this and want 3.5-4 mill a year if not more. Holland isnt the sharpest tool in the shed, but i did say 1 thing right, he is a tool

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Wow, Datsyuk thinks he's worth Thornton money? Interesting....

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"I think I am worth at least what (Dany) Heatley or (Joe) Thornton got from their deals," Datsyuk told the Russian media.
What a goof. When Datsyuk scores 40 goals or 100 points while playing a physical game, he can ask for Heatley or Thornton type money. At this point I fail to see why he should get any more than what Martin Havlat is getting($2.6 mil).

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Datsyuk has a clause in his Avangard contract, allowing him to leave for the NHL midway through the season.
Anyone know if this will interfere with the NHL's clause that prevents contracts being signed after December 1st?

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What a goof. When Datsyuk scores 40 goals or 100 points while playing a physical game, he can ask for Heatley or Thornton type money. At this point I fail to see why he should get any more than what Martin Havlat is getting($2.6 mil).



Anyone know if this will interfere with the NHL's clause that prevents contracts being signed after December 1st?
im pretty sure thats the vesy last day we can sign him or he gone for the year.

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