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10-05-2003, 01:53 PM
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Opening Night Roster/Line Predictions

Based on the current roster on the Preds site, what are your opening night roster/line predictions?

Here are mine:

21 Andreas Johansson 11 David Legwand 24 Scott Walker
17 Scott Hartnell 25 Denis Arkhipov 33 Vladimir Orszagh
10 Martin Erat 15 Rem Murray 18 Adam Hall
38 Vernon Fiddler 22 Greg Johnson 55 Jordin Tootoo

44 Kimmo Timonen 3 Marek Zidlicky
27 Jason York 36 Robert Schnabel
4 Mark Eaton 26 Wade Brookbank

29 Tomas Vokoun
30 Chris Mason


Kloucek, McKenzie, and Allison are still up, but scratched due to injury.

If York isn't ready, Hamuis steps in.

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Figured I'd expound on my reasoning here...

-Our first line is a no brainer... these guys click.

-Hartnell has been on fire this preseason with Arkhipov and Orszagh

-Erat and Hall have been great together. Speed and grit with a solid 2-way center in Murray.

-Fiddler fills in that last LW spot. He and Johnson will make our 4th line a leg up when it comes to winning faceoffs and Tootoo will be Tootoo.

I am probably far off on the D-pairings, but here goes...

-Kimmo and Zid played together a lot in the pre-season. I'm guessing they will be kept together.

-Eaton and Brookbank... I've got faith in Eaton being reliable for us while we get everyone healthy, and Brookbank provides the physical presence while Kloucek gets healthy.

-York and Schnabel... This could end up being a Hamhuis/Schnabel line as well. Either way, they won't be logging heavy minutes. The concern on York would be conditioning after missing the preseason, and the knock on Hamhuis would be the experience. Schnabel isn't a workhorse yet either, but has as good a physical game as we could expect from our 6th defenseman.

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I agree with the Offensive lines and the 1st d-line, but after that it's really a crap shoot pending on the injury situation..

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I agree with the Offensive lines and the 1st d-line, but after that it's really a crap shoot pending on the injury situation..
Now, fair is fair, guys...
When I suggested Kimmo and Zids would play a line, I was slapped down pretty quick...

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Well to play the devils advocate, no one really knew what to expect without seeing Zids playing...

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Now, fair is fair, guys...
When I suggested Kimmo and Zids would play a line, I was slapped down pretty quick...
And it's just as insane today as it was when you said it.....

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I still don't see the Zidlicky/Timonen combo happening on anything other than a PP. Zidlicky plays bigger than his size and can lay monster hits (how about that one on Pohl against St. Louis the other night?) but that lineup is going to be prayed on by the bigger, more physical lines in the NHL. Matching Timonen with a more physical player like Schnabel or Kloucek or Brookbank allows us to spread our offense around and still mantain a major physical presence on every line.

Besides, when York is back, he's likely going to go with Timonen and that would leave Zidlicky, Brookbank, Eaton, Kloucek, Hamhuis and Schnabel for the final 4 (5?) Dman spots. I like our choices. 3 offensive Dmen and 3 big bruisers.

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[QUOTE=RWS]...what are your opening night roster/line predictions?

Here are mine:

21 Andreas Johansson 11 David Legwand 24 Scott Walker
17 Scott Hartnell 25 Denis Arkhipov 33 Vladimir Orszagh
10 Martin Erat 15 Rem Murray 18 Adam Hall
38 Vernon Fiddler 22 Greg Johnson 55 Jordin Tootoo
...QUOTE]

I'd put Rem on a wing and Fiddler in a center spot. Fiddler's played center all preseason to my knowledge. While Murray's played mainly wing.

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Actually Murray did center Erat and Hall the other night, and that line looked really good. The playmaker, Erat has someone in Hall who will drive the net and one of the best finishers on the team, not to mention Hall will watch over Erat a little. Murray offers a 2-way center to allow the kids to focus more on goal scoring, which is what they do best.

The top line is the same from last year, Arkhipov centering Orszagh and Hartnell was another line that played great the other night, Hartnell brings an edge to that line, hopefully that will be enough to keep Arkhipov's drive going, those two together are a big talented line, Orszagh again provides that solid 2 way play.

The forth line the other night was Johnson centering Tootoo and Upshall. I liked this line, they all play at top speed, Upshall has some moves and Johnny again, provideds leadership for the younger guys. Any team that puts out its goon line against this line will pay, they're all fast skaters and can all put the puck in the net.

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Actually Murray did center Erat and Hall the other night, and that line looked really good. The playmaker, Erat has someone in Hall who will drive the net and one of the best finishers on the team, not to mention Hall will watch over Erat a little. Murray offers a 2-way center to allow the kids to focus more on goal scoring, which is what they do best.

The top line is the same from last year, Arkhipov centering Orszagh and Hartnell was another line that played great the other night, Hartnell brings an edge to that line, hopefully that will be enough to keep Arkhipov's drive going, those two together are a big talented line, Orszagh again provides that solid 2 way play.

The forth line the other night was Johnson centering Tootoo and Upshall. I liked this line, they all play at top speed, Upshall has some moves and Johnny again, provideds leadership for the younger guys. Any team that puts out its goon line against this line will pay, they're all fast skaters and can all put the puck in the net.

If I recall correctly, alot of the night Upshall centered Hall and Erat (this line was the 4th line in terms of appearance).
Johnson centered Murray and Tootoo (this line was the starting line and rotated as the second/3rd line).

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You may be right, Smokey, either way the principle is the same, Upshall brings more playmaking than Johnson but it all balances out, although I think my way offers more balance.

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Johansson - Legwand - Walker
Hartnell - Arkhipov - Orszagh
Erat - Murray - Hall
Upshall - Johnson - Tootoo

Timonen - Eaton
Zidlicky - Schnabel
Hamhuis - Brookbank

Vokoun
Mason

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Johansson - Legwand - Walker
Hartnell - Arkhipov - Orszagh
Erat - Murray - Hall
Upshall - Johnson - Tootoo

Timonen - Eaton
Zidlicky - Schnabel
Hamhuis - Brookbank

Vokoun
Mason
Looks great, even the defensive lines look like a go to me.

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Johansson - Legwand - Walker
Hartnell - Arkhipov - Orszagh
Erat - Murray - Hall
Upshall - Johnson - Tootoo

Timonen - Eaton
Zidlicky - Schnabel
Hamhuis - Brookbank

Vokoun
Mason
I think Upshall starts the season in Milwaukee:

Johansson - Legwand - Walker
Hartnell - Arkhipov - Orszagh
Murray - Johnson - Tootoo
Erat - Fiddler - Hall

Timonen - Eaton
Zidlicky - Schnabel
Hamhuis - Brookbank

Vokoun
Mason

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Timonen - Eaton
Zidlicky - Schnabel
Hamhuis - Brookbank
Considering our injuries, that looks pretty solid.

When Klouck and York are back, Trotz and company are going to have some tough decisions, especially if Schnabel and Hamhuis play well.

I can see us carrying 7 d-man and sending Hamhuis back down to get a lot of minutes in milwalkee. I'd send Schnabel back down, but I don't think he'd clear waivers, and I like the idea of having Brookbank, Schnabel, and Kloucek out there protecting Vokoun.

Either way, I like that we enough depth on our blue line that the choice of who stays and who goes is up in the air.

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Considering our injuries, that looks pretty solid.

When Klouck and York are back, Trotz and company are going to have some tough decisions, especially if Schnabel and Hamhuis play well.

I can see us carrying 7 d-man and sending Hamhuis back down to get a lot of minutes in milwalkee. I'd send Schnabel back down, but I don't think he'd clear waivers, and I like the idea of having Brookbank, Schnabel, and Kloucek out there protecting Vokoun.

Either way, I like that we enough depth on our blue line that the choice of who stays and who goes is up in the air.
are you sure schnabel would HAVE to clear waivers?

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We protected him in the waiver draft so I'm assuming he would?

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We protected him in the waiver draft so I'm assuming he would?
I think you are correct.

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We protected him in the waiver draft so I'm assuming he would?
i could be wrong, but i think it listed our exemptions as well as those we actually protected...

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i could be wrong, but i think it listed our exemptions as well as those we actually protected...

Don't think so

http://nhl.com/onthefly/news/2003/10/152128.html

Check out Atlanta, no Kovalchuk or Heatley on their protected list. Same for Edmonton and Hemsky, St. Louis with Jackman and Anaheim with Chistov. Exempts weren't included on this list that I am aware of. Though I'm not sure why Nash is there for Columbus?

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i could be wrong, but i think it listed our exemptions as well as those we actually protected...
What are the powerplay combos for this year???

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What are the powerplay combos for this year???
Using what we saw in the last game and projecting for the Anaheim game, here's what I think

Timonen an Zidlicky on the point for the first team
Legwand, Johansson and Walker are the forwards

The above unit was our first team PP for the last Preseason game.

Eaton* and York on the point for the second team
Erat, Arkhipov* and Hall/Hartnell* as the forwards.

* represents those who played on the second team PP during the last preseason game.

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Nash shouldn't have been protected...

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Nash shouldn't have been protected...
Agreed. I think it is a mistake. Bouwmeester wasn't protected, neither was PM-Bouchard of Minnesota, Pirjeta of Columbus, or Eminger of Washington. All were 2002 draftees that saw atleast 17 games of NHL time. None are on their teams protected lists.

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Agreed. I think it is a mistake. Bouwmeester wasn't protected, neither was PM-Bouchard of Minnesota, Pirjeta of Columbus, or Eminger of Washington. All were 2002 draftees that saw atleast 17 games of NHL time. None are on their teams protected lists.
Didn't we obtain Schnab off the waiver wire from Phoenix?

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