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06-24-2014, 04:10 PM
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He has 3 years left. They would probably want someone for the their 2C as part of the deal so you'd be looking at Hanzal or Vermette plus whatever else they deem appropriate.
Yeah would probably have to pass on that. Unless Vermette straight or Vermette and a later pick would do it and then grab Ott for the 3c spot. But that doesn't seem worth it.

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06-24-2014, 04:37 PM
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Pens fan;

What is Vrbata rumored to be demanding?

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We really aren't sure
If it were anything under 5 though I think he'd be signed already.

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If it were anything under 5 though I think he'd be signed already.
That's steep. I like Vrbata a lot. And strangely, it's damn hard to find a RHS RW!!

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That's steep. I like Vrbata a lot. And strangely, it's damn hard to find a RHS RW!!
It's hard to find Vrbata, too, during long stretches of a season.

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It's hard to find Vrbata, too, during long stretches of a season.
Playing with Tim Kennedy or Rob Klinkhammer most of the year didn't help either. If we keep him around, we're going to have to find a left winger that's not complete garbage to play with him and Hanzal.

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Vrby with Crosby would be ridiculous.

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What is Vrbata rumored to be demanding?
I think it's about term, but that's just my guess.
I'm one of the few think he will eventually re-sign

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Would Stone for Tatar even be an option? Stone and Korpi for Tatar?
I hope so.

Stone is definitely someone of interest to Det, since they are looking for a RHD with physicality, as well as a smidge of offensive acumen. Stone would be a relatively low cost option that they should be looking for.

TBL is the other team that have always had a lot of interest in Stone. It would have been very nice had we made a swap based on Stone and Palat a year ago.

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Being truthfully honest here, Both Nyquist and Mantha are off the table. The deal that I would most likely could see happening would be Jurco plus one of either Abdelkader and or Helm plus the 15th overall And I see phoenix shooting down that offer in a heartbeat. This piece is coming from Helene St James who is a beat writer for the Detroit Free Press usually what she says I take with a grain of salt. I know in the past Detroit has had tons of Interest in Keith Yandle. I just dont see Ken Holland giving up the pieces that it would take to get Yandle. Ansar Khan who is a beat writer for Michigan Live now if he had said this I would say that it would have alot more validity.
Me personally, if Yandle is going to Detroit, I want part of the package to include Mantha. Abdelkader and Helm don't interest me at all.

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We really, really need an update on Vrbata and/or replacement for him.

This is getting really close for comfort.
The dominos start falling Friday (during the draft), then continue on through Free Agency starting July 1. By July 4 Vrby will have a new deal and given it's his last chance at a big contract, the weak FA class and GMDM/Tip desire to change the chemistry IMHO it very likely won't be here.

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Playing with Tim Kennedy or Rob Klinkhammer most of the year didn't help either. If we keep him around, we're going to have to find a left winger that's not complete garbage to play with him and Hanzal.
Yup. The Yandle/Vrbata witch hunt going around here is just plain stupid.

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06-24-2014, 06:08 PM
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Dealing Yandle to Detroit for a package of young guys, beneficial in itself, also frees up about $3 million in spending money. Moneypucking to follow...

Nyquist (1.05) - Ribeiro (5.5) - Vanek (7)
Domi (.925) - Vermette (3.75) - Boedker (2.8)
Abdelkader (2) - Hanzal (3.25) - Doan (5.05)
McMillan (.745) - Ott (3) - Erat (2.25)

OEL (4) - Michalek (4)
Gormley (.81) - W. Mitchell (2)
Summers (.575) - Stone (1.2)
Schlemko (1.275) - Murphy (.833)

Smith (6)
C. Johnson (.6)

Comes out to $59.246M. We don't re-sign Vrbata, Moss, Halpern, Biz, Mo, and Greiss, and move Korpi, Chip, and Klink for picks, with cash coming back. I don't really like ditching Erat on the fourth line, but there was no other space. Plus he can do more than score.

If you don't like Vanek, and want more cap space, sub in someone like Hemsky, Milan Michalek, or even Vrbata. Vitale for Ott to save more cash. I'm more interested in Montoya than Johnson, so he's workable if we save money elsewhere.

Anyone else willing to bite on Willie Mitchell (albeit for about half his current salary)? Not sure of his status with the Kings going forward, but his style of play is what our blueline has been missing.

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Me personally, if Yandle is going to Detroit, I want part of the package to include Mantha. Abdelkader and Helm don't interest me at all.
Yeah that's why a Yandle to Detroit deal will never happen, Because Phoenix will want either Nyquist and or Mantha and there just not going to be moved not even for Yandle who would really thrive in Detroit.

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Yeah that's why a Yandle to Detroit deal will never happen, Because Phoenix will want either Nyquist and or Mantha and there just not going to be moved not even for Yandle who would really thrive in Detroit.
Come on now. You guys have won enough, even at our expense. It's our turn.

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06-24-2014, 06:44 PM
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Come on now. You guys have won enough, even at our expense. It's our turn.
Well let's see what happens at the draft, If Holland get's a major brain fart and really wants Yandle then any thing can happen. Yandle would already make our defense miles better.

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The dominos start falling Friday (during the draft), then continue on through Free Agency starting July 1. By July 4 Vrby will have a new deal and given it's his last chance at a big contract, the weak FA class and GMDM/Tip desire to change the chemistry IMHO it very likely won't be here.
Then I think we ought to be hoping that GMDM is making a big play for Hemsky.

He is probably the best bet to replace the qualities that Vrby brought to the table.

After that, who knows, Setoguchi? M.Michalek is a huge risk health wise, and guys like Moulson would likely be priced out of our range, and don't fit our system anyways.

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Not really roster talk but I'll just drop this here:

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#Coyotes Antoine Vermette was 14th in the Selke Trophy Voting.

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We have discuss about getting a RH 4th line center that's good on faceoffs, but the Coyotes already have one, it's just expected that he starts the season in Portland. It's not about where Henrik Samuelsson starts off the season, but if he can contribute later on and be effective when the Coyotes make the playoffs. And I'm not advocating not getting a 4th line center. I do have high hopes for Henrik and think he will make the Coyotes roster sooner than most expect.

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We have discuss about getting a RH 4th line center that's good on faceoffs, but the Coyotes already have one, it's just expected that he starts the season in Portland. It's not about where Henrik Samuelsson starts off the season, but if he can contribute later on and be effective when the Coyotes make the playoffs. And I'm not advocating not getting a 4th line center. I do have high hopes for Henrik and think he will make the Coyotes roster sooner than most expect.
I'd rather he spend the year in Portland, ideally so would Domi but that doesn't look plausible at this point because he's not eligible.

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Then I think we ought to be hoping that GMDM is making a big play for Hemsky.

He is probably the best bet to replace the qualities that Vrby brought to the table.
Why do you keep repeating this?! I don't know how you're coming to this conclusion. Vrbata is an opportunistic shooter who rarely passes and Hemsky is an opportunistic passer who rarely shoots. They couldn't be much different players! Hell if anything Hemsky is the perfect compliment to Vrbata, not a replacement.

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I'd rather he spend the year in Portland, ideally so would Domi but that doesn't look plausible at this point because he's not eligible.
I just don't feel that he needs a whole year. He is already physically and mentally mature enough. He has a good understanding of the NHL game and what he has to do to be successful. The one thing I would like him to do, if management thinks they will eventually be paired together, is give him a lot of playing time with Lessio in Portland to start the season. At some point during the season, I can see both playing on the 4th line in AZ. I also believe at that time they would benefit more from playing 4th line minutes in the NHL than 1st line minutes in the 'A'. And with Hanzal and Vermette, they wouldn't need to be the typical one dimentional 4th line and that also depends on the supporting cast for Hanzal and Vermette.

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Why do you keep repeating this?! I don't know how you're coming to this conclusion. Vrbata is an opportunistic shooter who rarely passes and Hemsky is an opportunistic passer who rarely shoots. They couldn't be much different players! Hell if anything Hemsky is the perfect compliment to Vrbata, not a replacement.
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He's going to need the whole year in the AHL. He adjusts slowly.

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Why do you keep repeating this?! I don't know how you're coming to this conclusion. Vrbata is an opportunistic shooter who rarely passes and Hemsky is an opportunistic passer who rarely shoots. They couldn't be much different players! Hell if anything Hemsky is the perfect compliment to Vrbata, not a replacement.
Pair Domi with Hemsky and Boedker with Ribiero. Put Doan with Vermette, Korpi with Hanzal. Tippet likes twosomes, not threesomes. Old fashioned that way

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