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06-26-2014, 06:06 PM
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Staple's latest tweets on Isles draft

Per Staple, Isles not interested in moving up, and have no solid offers for fifth.

I suspect they will wind up staying at fifth and using the pick.


Arthur Staple @StapeNewsday · 1h Snow adds that #Isles options tomorrow are keep pick, trade for a young player or move down draft board. Not moving up.




Garth Snow says he's gotten offers for the No. 5 pick, but nothing enticing enough at this point. #Isles

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I have my heart set on Michael Dal Colle.

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So basically what we always see from Snow on Draft day?

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You think that standing pat is what we always see from Snow?

He didn't trade up for Nelson, de Haan?

He didn't trade down for Bailey?

He didn't make countless other trade down and up deals at other stages of the draft?

If anything, Snow is wildly unpredictable on draft day.

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So basically what we always see from Snow on Draft day?
Yep every year we hear how he is willing to trade the pick and he never does. The only fear this year is Snow might feel forced to make a trade due to possible new ownership next season and him needing to perform(so he makes a trade that isn't good long term)

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You think that standing pat is what we always see from Snow?

He didn't trade up for Nelson, de Haan?

He didn't trade down for Bailey?

He didn't make countless other trade down and up deals at other stages of the draft?

If anything, Snow is wildly unpredictable on draft day.
Trading down a few spots is hardly comparable to trading pick for NHL talent

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Trading down a few spots is hardly comparable to trading pick for NHL talent
Trades of top five picks for established NHL talents range from rare to non-existent. So, no, that has not been Snow's strategy.

I think the Isles would move the pick for a good young player who can step in (like Columbus with the Carter deal, or LA with the Mike Richards deal), I just don't think those deals are easily found.

The Isles were never going to move the fifth for guys like Oduya and Leddy (like some Hawks fans suggested). It would have had to be an impact player, and those guys are just not out there for trade.

I still think the Isles may wind up moving down though.

And, on an editorial note, I hate trading picks. Just never ends well.....

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You think that standing pat is what we always see from Snow?

He didn't trade up for Nelson, de Haan?

He didn't trade down for Bailey?

He didn't make countless other trade down and up deals at other stages of the draft?

If anything, Snow is wildly unpredictable on draft day.

bang...couldnt have said it better myself

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I really hope the Isles keep the pick.

It's the last draft party we'll probably ever have at the Coliseum. The fans that are there deserve to see us draft one more first-round player.

Personally, I really like the idea of potentially having JT playing with a guy like Dal Colle. I don't know anything about scouting, but this kid reminds me of Rick Nash.

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I have my heart set on Michael Dal Colle.
Considering trading down(for the right offer, of course) is more appealing than making the pick, I have a feeling they're not big on Dal Colle, the guy universally projected at their spot. If they make the pick, I have a feeling it'll be a "reach".

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Isles scout Cairns specifically mention Dal Colle and Leon Draisaitl as prospects they were high on.

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MDC is what the Isles need, if we trade the pick or move around its being cute.

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Considering trading down(for the right offer, of course) is more appealing than making the pick, I have a feeling they're not big on Dal Colle, the guy universally projected at their spot. If they make the pick, I have a feeling it'll be a "reach".
The Isles don't go for a super reach with top-5 picks. They do take who they like, but they don't pull a facepalmer. Nino, Strome, and Reinhart were all in the range. JT was a no brainer, of course.

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MDC is what the Isles need, if we trade the pick or move around its being cute.
I would be disappointed if the Islanders don't pick somebody outside of the top 5 that most lists(Reinhart, Ekblad, Bennett, Draisaitl and Dal Colle) have.

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If I'm the Islanders I definitely keep the pick, they're not a team in a position to make a big splash at the draft.

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Isles scout Cairns specifically mention Dal Colle and Leon Draisaitl as prospects they were high on.
I really don't get the "I'll make the pick if I have to" talk, then. Obviously you might want to move it for a quality player right now, but he almost makes it seem like trading down is more highly thought of than making the pick. I get the logic, but only if the guys you think will be there aren't worth it. There's a good chance both of those guys are available with that pick. If you're high on them, I don't understand why you'd even consider trading down.

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The Isles don't go for a super reach with top-5 picks. They do take who they like, but they don't pull a facepalmer. Nino, Strome, and Reinhart were all in the range. JT was a no brainer, of course.
I actually have noticed that with the Isles, their draft boards never seem to stray far from the consensus, but that may have been a coincidence, and this year especially seems like rankings could be all over the place.

Also, I wouldn't call them faceplamers, as much as you want to at the time. Ducks sure aren't regretting their "reach" in 2012.

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If you're high on them, I don't understand why you'd even consider trading down.
If you believe you can get the guy you want at 5 at 7 or 8 then trading down isn't a bad move. If you believe Snow in 2008 they had Bailey rated 5th so he made a smart move trading down 4 spots and picking up alot of extra picks

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Per Staple, Isles not interested in moving up, and have no solid offers for fifth.

I suspect they will wind up staying at fifth and using the pick.


Arthur Staple @StapeNewsday · 1h Snow adds that #Isles options tomorrow are keep pick, trade for a young player or move down draft board. Not moving up.




Garth Snow says he's gotten offers for the No. 5 pick, but nothing enticing enough at this point. #Isles
You do realize you are implying that anything Garf says right before the draft might be true, right? Because he has never lied at this time before?

lol, I agree things look better for keeping the pick, but you just know that pick is burning a hole in his pocket like a fist full of fifties in the jeans of a college underclassman on break in Tijuana. I mean, sizzling.

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Per Staple, Isles not interested in moving up, and have no solid offers for fifth.

I suspect they will wind up staying at fifth and using the pick.


Arthur Staple @StapeNewsday · 1h Snow adds that #Isles options tomorrow are keep pick, trade for a young player or move down draft board. Not moving up.




Garth Snow says he's gotten offers for the No. 5 pick, but nothing enticing enough at this point. #Isles
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So basically what we always see from Snow on Draft day?

thank you--I was about to say this--What snow will do is trade lower picks around or trade player for 2 picks and then trade those two picks for four picks

Snow always talks about trading his top pick but doesn't

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Trades of top five picks for established NHL talents range from rare to non-existent. So, no, that has not been Snow's strategy.

I think the Isles would move the pick for a good young player who can step in (like Columbus with the Carter deal, or LA with the Mike Richards deal), I just don't think those deals are easily found.

The Isles were never going to move the fifth for guys like Oduya and Leddy (like some Hawks fans suggested). It would have had to be an impact player, and those guys are just not out there for trade.

I still think the Isles may wind up moving down though.

And, on an editorial note, I hate trading picks. Just never ends well.....
I heard on radio out of Calgary that they think the Flames will take Ritchie with the 4th pick… Reinhart could very well be there at 5

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Reinhart could very well be there at 5
I am guessing Buffalo picks Reinhart, more likely Bennett falls to 5(in which case I imagine the Leafs and Jets madly on the phone with the Islanders).

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If you believe you can get the guy you want at 5 at 7 or 8 then trading down isn't a bad move. If you believe Snow in 2008 they had Bailey rated 5th so he made a smart move trading down 4 spots and picking up alot of extra picks
Oh, of course, but I don't see that being the case with MDC. We have no way of knowing, but it would seem like if you move down, you're not going to get him. When I said that, I specifically meant Draisaitl and MDC. If they're high on Perlini or something, and are confident they'll get him at 11, absolutely go for it. I just don't see how you could rate Draisaitl and MDC highly, yet want to trade down. Seems weird to me.

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Oh, of course, but I don't see that being the case with MDC. We have no way of knowing, but it would seem like if you move down, you're not going to get him. When I said that, I specifically meant Draisaitl and MDC. If they're high on Perlini or something, and are confident they'll get him at 11, absolutely go for it. I just don't see how you could rate Draisaitl and MDC highly, yet want to trade down. Seems weird to me.
I personally wouldn't trade down(since I am on draft the best consensus player train) but most Islanders fans who open to it seem to want other guys

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I hate to break this but this report means nothing. Offers won't really become serious until tomorrow on the floor. Trades that involved picks like this always happen pretty much right before the team that is trading the pick is slate to go up and pick. Aka Jared Staal to Carolina, Cory Schneider to NJ, etc.

Offers for the the 5th will be a lot better tomorrow. Especially if a specific player that a team wants is still there.

I still say Snow deals the pick

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I really hope the Isles keep the pick.

It's the last draft party we'll probably ever have at the Coliseum. The fans that are there deserve to see us draft one more first-round player.

Personally, I really like the idea of potentially having JT playing with a guy like Dal Colle. I don't know anything about scouting, but this kid reminds me of Rick Nash.
Why not host a 2015 draft party as a sendoff?

Oh....right.

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