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06-28-2014, 09:46 AM
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2 words....salary cap.
Bingo. Look at what happened to Chicago after their first cup run in 2010.

Remember the turnover they went through that off-season?

RW Dustin Byfuglien (traded to Atlanta)
LW Ben Eager (traded to Atlanta)
D Brent Sopel (traded to Atlanta)
C Colin Fraser (traded to Edmonton)
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C Adam Burish (unrestricted free agent, signed by Dallas)
C John Madden (unrestricted free agent, signed by Minnesota)
G Antti Niemi (unrestricted free agent, signed by San Jose)
D Kim Johnsson (unrestricted free agent)

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I really wish there would be a luxury tax in the NHL - if solely to compensate for stuff like cost of living. $100 will get you a lot further in Nashville than it will in NYC along with income taxes, etc...

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06-28-2014, 09:50 AM
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I really wish there would be a luxury tax in the NHL - if solely to compensate for stuff like cost of living. $100 will get you a lot further in Nashville than it will in NYC along with income taxes, etc...
Besides Henrik Lundqvist, the hard cap is the best thing to happen to the Rangers in 20 years

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06-28-2014, 09:51 AM
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This is Sather's summer. He loves to trade when he has someone over a barrel and there are any number of teams that are rip for the picking whether for salary cap reasons or otherwise and I have no doubt the Rangers, for better or worse, will wind up with a Spezza or Joe Thornton or maybe even a Patrick Sharp...someone of that ilk is going to be moved for a package of J. Moore and Danny Kristo. OK, maybe they won't come that cheap but I don't see the Rangers having to overpay in assets to acquire those types of players.

Both Vancouver deals yesterday could have helped the Rangers, at least on paper. Maybe AV had negative reports on the players. In any event, I have little doubt we're acquiring one of the big fish I mentioned earlier.

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This is Sather's summer. He loves to trade when he has someone over a barrel and there are any number of teams that are rip for the picking whether for salary cap reasons or otherwise and I have no doubt the Rangers, for better or worse, will wind up with a Spezza or Joe Thornton or maybe even a Patrick Sharp...someone of that ilk is going to be moved for a package of J. Moore and Danny Kristo.

Both Vancouver deals yesterday could have helped the Rangers, at least on paper. Maybe AV had negative reports on the players. In any event, I have little doubt we're acquiring one of the big fish I mentioned earlier.
With what cap space?

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06-28-2014, 09:57 AM
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I like the patient strategy. Seems like lots of churning with every team. Lets see what floats to the surface. I loved Pouloit about 60% of the time this year. Him and Stralman came to the Rangers as free agents off the scrap heap and we turned them into multimillionaires. Players sometimes can be like real estate or stocks buy low ..let them go high.. Maybe if we can find another under performing player the challenge will be to decide whether or not to sign him to a multiyear contract at a reasonable number.

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06-28-2014, 10:01 AM
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This is Sather's summer. He loves to trade when he has someone over a barrel and there are any number of teams that are rip for the picking whether for salary cap reasons or otherwise and I have no doubt the Rangers, for better or worse, will wind up with a Spezza or Joe Thornton or maybe even a Patrick Sharp...someone of that ilk is going to be moved for a package of J. Moore and Danny Kristo. OK, maybe they won't come that cheap but I don't see the Rangers having to overpay in assets to acquire those types of players.

Both Vancouver deals yesterday could have helped the Rangers, at least on paper. Maybe AV had negative reports on the players. In any event, I have little doubt we're acquiring one of the big fish I mentioned earlier.
The Rangers are in the same spot as a lot of teams. They don't have enough cap space to re-sign all their RFA/UFA's. Boyle we know is already gone. The Rangers still have to re-sign Zucc, Brassard, J. Moore out of the RFA's and D. Moore, Stralman, and possibly Pouliot out of the UFA's. Your talking about $15 million in combined cap space taken up if you don't re-sign Pouliot. $17 million if you do.

If the Rangers did move for one of those guys, they would have more holes elsewhere on the roster.

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06-28-2014, 10:21 AM
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What about Setoguchi to replace Pouliot?

27, RH shot. Had only 11 goals last year but his shooting % was only 8.5%, 3% lower than his career average of 11.5%. Gotta figure he'll return to around his average and if he does, he could pot 15-20 goals.

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06-28-2014, 11:07 AM
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With the current cap crunch, Carcillo at such a deal is a much better fit for the Rangers than Dorsett.
Agreed, especially if it's just a fourth line player.

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06-28-2014, 11:27 AM
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What about Setoguchi to replace Pouliot?

27, RH shot. Had only 11 goals last year but his shooting % was only 8.5%, 3% lower than his career average of 11.5%. Gotta figure he'll return to around his average and if he does, he could pot 15-20 goals.
I would do it if it was under 3 mil...

Have a 3rd line of hags-miller-seto

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Boyle, stralman, poul are all in same boat.. First time in career they are top commodities.. Will get longer then typical 2-3 yr contracts..

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06-28-2014, 11:33 AM
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Hawks trade bolig for calgarys 3rd wish slats pulled that one off

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06-28-2014, 11:36 AM
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What happened with the ROR talk? Did we just realize it's not, in fact, monetarily possible.

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06-28-2014, 11:43 AM
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I forgot that Gorton and AV will be a big part of the decision making they won't neglect the bottom 6

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What happened with the ROR talk? Did we just realize it's not, in fact, monetarily possible.
I don't think ANYONE expected it.. its possible if we trade Staal but doubt Rangers want to move him

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What happened with the ROR talk? Did we just realize it's not, in fact, monetarily possible.
It is if Staal is dealt.

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https://twitter.com/andystrickland/s...10939616784384

So Shattenkirk isn't joining the Rangers?

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I forgot that Gorton and AV will be a big part of the decision making they won't neglect the bottom 6
Someone should wake Gordie Clark up when it comes to that

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06-28-2014, 12:22 PM
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Hawks trade bolig for calgarys 3rd wish slats pulled that one off
Trading for Calgary's third? Me too

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New Kids on The block - Why no Swedes or. Finns?

Only 29 roster spots of now. LOTs of new faces to be part of The organisation this coming week.including 5 draft picks today

PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS ORGANISATION 2014-2015 (29)
NEW YORK RANGERS SQUAD (12)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted Age
1 F Stepan, Derek $3,075,000 RFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R2 #51 NYR (2008) 23
2 F Hagelin, Carl $2,250,000 RFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R6 #168 NYR (2007) 25
3 F Miller, J.T. (ELC) $1,244,167* RFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #15 NYR (2011) 20
4 F Fast(h), Jesper (ELC) $900,000* RFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R6 #157 NYR (2010) 22
5 F St Louis, Marty $5,625,000 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted 39
6 D Staal, Marc $3,975,000 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 NYR (2005) 27
7 G Talbot, Cameron $562,600 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 26
8D Kline, Kevin $2,900,000 UFA 2018 New York Rangers/NHL R2 #37 Nashville Predators(2003) 29
9 F Nash, Rick (NMC??) $7,800,000 UFA 2019 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #1 Columbus Blue Jackets (2002) 29
10 D McDonagh, Ryan $4,700,000 UFA 2019 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 Montreal (2007) 24
11 D Girardi, Dan (NMC => NTC) $5,500,000 UFA 2020 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 29
12 G Lundqvist, Henrik (NMC) $8,500,000 UFA 2021 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #208 NYR (2000) 32

ASSIGNED TO AHL/ECHL (17)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted Age
13 D McIlrath, Dylan (ELC) $1,295,000* RFA 2015 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R1 #10 NYR (2010) 21
14 F Yogan, Andrew (ELC) $800,000* RFA 2015 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R4 #100 NYR (2010) 22
15F Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) $760,000* RFA 2015 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R2 #57 PHX (2010) 22
16 F Hrivik, Marek (ELC) $685,000* RFA 2015 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 22
17 D Allen, Connor (ELC) $1,775,000* RFA 2016 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 24
18D Zámorský, Petr (ELC) ~$925,000?? RFA 2016 HC Zlin Undrafted (started w NYR) 21
19 D Hughes, Tommy (ELC) $608,333 RFA 2016 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 21
20D Bodie, Matt (ELC) $925.000 RFA 2016 Union College Undrafted (started w NYR) 24
21 F Haggerty, Ryan (ELC) $925.000 RFA 2016 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 21
22 F Nicholls, J. (ELC) $709,167 RFA 2016 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010) 21
23D Noreau, Samuel (ELC) $685,000 RFA 2016 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL R5 #136 NYR(2011) 21
24 F St. Croix, M. (ELC) $665,000 RFA 2016 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R4 #106 NYR (2011) 20
25 F Kantor, Michael (ELC) $583,333 RFA 2016 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 22
26F Chris McCarthy (ELC) $692,500 RFA 2016 NCAA - U of Vermont Undrafted (started w NYR) 22
27 D Donnay, Troy (ELC) $716,667* RFA 2017 Juniors - London Knights/OHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 20
28G Skapski, Mackenzie (ELC) $661,667* RFA 2017 Kootenay/WHL R6 #170 NYR(2013) 19
29D Andersson, Calle (ELC) $661,667* RFA 2017 Zug Switzerland - loaned R4 #119 NYR (2012) 19
(30) F Duclair, Anthony (ELC-S) $820,000* RFA 2017 Juniors - Québec Remparts/QMJHL R3 #80 NYR(2013) 18
(31)D Ryan Graves (ELC-S) $660.000 RFA 2018 Juniors - PEI/QMJHL R4 #110 NYR(2013) 18

2014 OFFSEASON UFAs
Nr Pos Player Caphit 2013/2014 Team 2013/2014 Drafted Age Signed with New caphit
1 D Stralman, Anton $1,700,000 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #216 Toronto (2005) 27  
2 F Boyle, Brian $1,700,000 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003) 29  
3 F Pouliot, Benoit $1,300,000 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #4 Minnesota Wild (2005) 27  
4 D Diaz, Rafael $1,225,000 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted 28  
5 F Moore, Dominic $1,000,000 New York Rangers/NHL R4 #95 NYR (2000) 33  
6 F Carcillo, Dan $825,000 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #73 Pittsburgh Penguins (2003) 29  
7 F Powe, Darroll $1,066,667 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted 28  
8 F Asham, Arron $1,000,000 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R3 #71 Montreal (1996) 35  
9 D Bickel, Stu $750,000 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted (basically started w NYR) 27  
10 F Haley, Micheal $600,000 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted 27  
11 D Johnson, Aaron $600,000 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R3 #85 Columbus Blue Jackets (2001) 30  
12 D Syvret, Danny $587,500 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R3 #81 Edmonton Oilers (2005) 28  
13 G LeNeveu, David $550,000 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R2 #46 Phoenix Coyotes (2002) 30  

OFFSEASON RFAs
Nr Pos Player Caphit 2013/2014Team Drafted Age Signed with New caphit
1 F Brassard, Derick $3,200,000 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006) 26  
2 F Kreider, Chris (ELC) $1,325,000* New York Rangers/NHL R1 #19 NYR (2009) 22  
3 F Zuccarello, Mats $1,150,000 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 26  
4 D Falk, Justin $975,000 New York Rangers/NHL R4 #110 Minnesota Wild (2007) 25  
5 D Moore, John (ELC) $965,000 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #21 Columbus Blue Jackets (2009) 23  
6 F Kristo, Danny (ELC) $1,300,000* Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R2 #56 Montreal Canadians (2008) 23  
7 F Jean, Kyle (ELC) $925,000* Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 24  
8 F Bourque, Ryan (ELC) $900,000* Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R3 #80 NYR (2009) 23  
9 G Missiaen, Jason (ELC) $750,000* Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 23  
10 G Stajcer, Scott (ELC) $700,000* Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL R5 #140 NYR (2009) 22  
11 F Wilson, Jason (ELC) $588,333 Wichita Thunder/CHL R5 #130 NYR (2010) 23  
12 F Beach, Kyle $550,000 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R1 #11 Chicago Blackhawks (2008) 24  

[PLAYERS STILL UNSIGNED BUT RIGHTS RETAINED BY NYR (there are likely a few more here I believe)
Pos Player Team Drafted Age
F Fogarty, Steven Notre Dame Fighting Irish/NCAA R3 #72 NYR (2011) 20
F Nieves, Cristoval Michigan Wolverines/NCAA R2 #59 NYR (2012) 20
F Adam Tambellini Calgary Hitmen/WHL R3 #65 NYR (2013) 19
D Skjei, Brady Minnesota Golden Gophers/NCAA R1 #28 NYR (2012) 19
F Pavel Buchnevich Cherepovets/KHL R3 #75 NYR (2013) 18
G Brandon HalversonSault Ste. Marie (OHL) R2 #59 NYR (2014)18
FKeegan IverssonPortland Winterhawks (WHL) R3 #85 NYR (2014)18
DRyan Mantha Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL) R4 #104 NYR (2014)18
GIgor Shesterkin Spartak Moscow (KHL) R4 #118 NYR (2014)18
FRichard Nejezchleb Brandon (WHL) R5 #122 NYR (2014)20
DDaniel Walcott Blainville Boisbriand (QMJHL) R5 #140 NYR (2014)18
DTyler Nanne Team USA under 18 R5 #142 NYR (2014)18

* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract

2015 DRAFT PICKS
2nd round Tampa Bay Lightening (for Ryan Callahan)
2nd round NYR
3rd round NYR
4th round NYR
6th round NYR

We lost our 2015 1st rounder in the Marty St Louis trade with Tampa Bay.
We will receive a second-round pick from Tampa Bay in the Ryan Callahan trade as he re-signed with Tampa Bay for the 2014–15 NHL season. We then also lost our 7th round pick in the same trade.
We lost our 2015 5th rounder in the trade with Vancouver that brought us Rafael Diaz


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So Shattenkirk isn't joining the Rangers?
FWIW been told deal with STL fell through. Going to take further info from that source with a grain of salt.

Thankfully I don't post rumors often, cause if I did, any credibility would be gone.

Sorry, boys. I honestly thought the rumor was legit.

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FWIW been told deal with STL fell through. Going to take further info from that source with a grain of salt.

Thankfully I don't post rumors often, cause if I did, any credibility would be gone.

Sorry, boys. I honestly thought the rumor was legit.
Maybe it was. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean it wasn't close to happening.

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FWIW been told deal with STL fell through. Going to take further info from that source with a grain of salt.

Thankfully I don't post rumors often, cause if I did, any credibility would be gone.

Sorry, boys. I honestly thought the rumor was legit.
What? We ever had a deal in place with STL?

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All RFA's have received QOs from the Rangers.

https://twitter.com/AGrossRecord/sta...36952560562176

"To clarify, Sather saying all RFAs received qualifying offers did NOT include D Justin Falk, who was not expected to receive a QO."

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List of Rangers draft day trades

Can someone post here a list of all our draft day trades?

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