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06-28-2014, 12:08 PM
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Thanks, silverfish. Grabbing this and flipping it for a profit makes more sense in G heavy selections by NYR
they didn't trade shestyorkin...they traded the 119th pick

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I recognize your points, but you can justify drafting at any position. For the Rangers in particular however, that argument is weakest for drafting goalies. Add in the fact that the Rangers do not have a first round pick until two years from now and it just compounds what was in all likelihood a mistake.
You forget about the UDFA players we signed. Haggerty, McCarthy, Bodie. These players have a chance to be ready long before anyone we could have drafted today.

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06-28-2014, 12:50 PM
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This disagreement between ISS and RLR is pretty interesting.

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06-28-2014, 12:53 PM
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This disagreement between ISS and RLR is pretty interesting.
It's pretty consistent throughout the Rangers picks.

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06-28-2014, 01:11 PM
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Does anyone know how to find the thread in which we selected Hank? I tried search but came up empty. Just would be an interesting read.

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06-28-2014, 01:13 PM
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You'd probably have to use the Wayback Machine or something. Pretty sure there was a board wipe so it may not even exist there.

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06-28-2014, 01:13 PM
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Shestyorkin is a very talented goalie, can't really understand what exactly are you complaining about picking him in a late 4-th (especially considering that there weren't a lot of quality goalie prospects in your prospect pool).
Happy to have him… some people will complain about anything/everything. Also combine that with the fact he's in Russia so no one has really seen him, and he doesn't have a youtube highlight clip ;-)

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Happy to have him… some people will complain about anything/everything. Also combine that with the fact he's in Russia so no one has really seen him, and he doesn't have a youtube highlight clip ;-)
KHL is actually fairly easy to see. So I'm sure some people on here have seen him. I have not, however.

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You'd probably have to use the Wayback Machine or something. Pretty sure there was a board wipe so it may not even exist there.
Gotcha, oh well.

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KHL is actually fairly easy to see. So I'm sure some people on here have seen him. I have not, however.
According to his stats he only played 9 games in the KHL - He played most of his time in Russian MHL. I'll def try to catch a KHL game or 2 next year if he's there. Does anyone know which league he's expected to start in next season? It would also be cool to see him at the development camp if possible.

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According to his stats he only played 9 games in the KHL - He played most of his time in Russian MHL. I'll def try to catch a KHL game or 2 next year if he's there. Does anyone know which league he's expected to start in next season? It would also be cool to see him at the development camp if possible.
Probably KHL, I'd guess. Honestly I know nothing about the dude, lol.

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Probably KHL, I'd guess. Honestly I know nothing about the dude, lol.
I'm just thinking that it'd suck if he's behind some veteran super goalie or something over there kind of like Talbot over here where he's regulated to the minors or backup position.

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I'm just thinking that it'd suck if he's behind some veteran super goalie or something over there kind of like Talbot over here where he's regulated to the minors or backup position.
That is typically the case in the KHL. A lot of kids ride the pine.

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06-28-2014, 01:31 PM
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Yep.

Who knows why everyone thinks they are going to get immediate top 6 centers with these picks.
Who knows why you would think thats why people are upset at the strategy?

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06-28-2014, 01:34 PM
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I enjoy drafting Euro-goalies.

Shestyorkin doesn't sound like a good name for a future darkhorse #1 from a European league though .

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Probably KHL, I'd guess. Honestly I know nothing about the dude, lol.
It says on EP he's signed in the VHL and MHL next year

He'll likely stick with the VHL team and get a decent number of games, then they'll send him to the MHL for the playoffs

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06-28-2014, 03:59 PM
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well, if these goalies turn out good, it's certainly a good position to be in. I'm sure most teams envy Anahiem's non-stop goalie producing machine from Giguere, Bryz, Hillier, Fasth, Andersson, and Gibson. that's always been a position of strength for them.

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I have more of a problem taking a goalie in the 2nd than in the 4th. This is actually an ideal place to grab a goalie. Plus, anyone who glanced through the pre-draft thread would know that the Rangers were looking at this kid. (I believe Joey Bones posted the link.)

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06-28-2014, 06:01 PM
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Does anyone know how to find the thread in which we selected Hank? I tried search but came up empty. Just would be an interesting read.
This looks like something...but not much written in that thread.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/ar.../t-143567.html

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06-28-2014, 09:25 PM
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The NHL draft is about finding future nhlers. Jeez. Some of you guys sound like you would go mining for gold and not bother to bend down to pick up some diamonds.

The islanders are no model organization but they used a 3rd and a 4th on goalies. Oh, and they used a 3rd and 4th on goalies last year too. Canadiens picked Zach Fucale last year. It goes on and on. Its a crapshoot. Each team is trying to sift through the crap.

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06-28-2014, 09:53 PM
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The NHL draft is about finding future nhlers. Jeez. Some of you guys sound like you would go mining for gold and not bother to bend down to pick up some diamonds.

The islanders are no model organization but they used a 3rd and a 4th on goalies. Oh, and they used a 3rd and 4th on goalies last year too. Canadiens picked Zach Fucale last year. It goes on and on. Its a crapshoot. Each team is trying to sift through the crap.
I think that the Isles and Habs doing it seems fine when they are finding ways to draft all the other key pieces, whether thats by being the worst or drafting well early and/or late in the draft.

At #59 you really have a hard time making me believe we couldn't try to upgrade at forward or defense. I guess I'm supposed to be thrilled enough with last years 3rd rounders that I don't have to worry about missing 3 first rounds in a row. Plenty of teams have gotten through that fine

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I think that the Isles and Habs doing it seems fine when they are finding ways to draft all the other key pieces, whether thats by being the worst or drafting well early and/or late in the draft.

At #59 you really have a hard time making me believe we couldn't try to upgrade at forward or defense. I guess I'm supposed to be thrilled enough with last years 3rd rounders that I don't have to worry about missing 3 first rounds in a row. Plenty of teams have gotten through that fine
The Islanders and Habs are finding ways to draft key pieces?

The only key piece the Islanders have drafted is Tavares. And they didn't draft him by being good. The Islanders prospect pool is actually pretty horrendous for how many high picks they have had.

And the Habs have had the most overrated prospect pool since forever.

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The Islanders and Habs are finding ways to draft key pieces?

The only key piece the Islanders have drafted is Tavares. And they didn't draft him by being good. The Islanders prospect pool is actually pretty horrendous for how many high picks they have had.

And the Habs have had the most overrated prospect pool since forever.
I agree, but they still pull pieces together. Maybe not the Isles as much, but we all know they are an exception and really not at all relevant to any discussions of anything rational.

Isles drafting goalies makes sense in many ways.

Habs drafting them is still not on the same level as us cause Price has had injuries over the years. Hank has been, knock on wood, perfectly healthy most of his time here. Neither team should be drafting goalies that high unless the cupboard is completely barren, which up until last year the Habs were.

We have Talbot who is cheap and fairly young. Skapski is a nice prospect, but just that, one year removed from his draft. We've been fine with every backup we've rolled in here - Allaire is our backup, that's what many don't acknowledge

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