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06-30-2014, 08:08 PM
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I haven't missed a second of any game...I am not his biggest fan but have come to like him...He plays the same game reg season as playoffs and cant score in any scenario I do give him full marks for his defensive game and PK ability but to say he turns it up would be scoring more than 2 goals during the run



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Boyle pretty evidently turns it up in the post season. If you disagree, you're just not watching enough games during the regular season and playoffs to make the comparison.

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Again, the difference is going to be a few extra hundred thousand and a couple of extra years.

4 x 4 Rangers "offer".

4.5 x 6 could get it done.

What is the 500K getting you? Are the extra 2 years that much of an issue?

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06-30-2014, 08:10 PM
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So he's gonna take 500K more per year?? Whatever let him go. Guys need to want to be here
How is it him being greedy and not the Rangers being stupid?

500K isn't even league minimum. Give him the extra 500K.

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06-30-2014, 08:11 PM
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Again, the difference is going to be a few extra hundred thousand and a couple of extra years.

4 x 4 Rangers "offer".

4.5 x 6 could get it done.

What is the 500K getting you? Are the extra 2 years that much of an issue?
That is an 11 million dollar difference

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Again, the difference is going to be a few extra hundred thousand and a couple of extra years.

4 x 4 Rangers "offer".

4.5 x 6 could get it done.

What is the 500K getting you? Are the extra 2 years that much of an issue?
Can we turn it around and say is 500K that much less?

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Going after Statsny would be a mistake imo.

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06-30-2014, 08:12 PM
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Tyler Seguin - Loui Eriksson - terrible comparison IMO, and here's why. At the time of the deal, Eriksson was a very coveted player. You're acting like it was a rip off. Seguin was coming off a playoff where he struggled, he had fallen out of favor in Boston, he was blocked by Bergeron and Krejci. Eriksson fit that team like a glove, on paper. A 2-way scoring winger, not old. Erikson was 27 and coming off 3 consecutive years of 70 points playing top, top, top defense. Seguin had not yet emerged.

Trading Stepan for Spezza would more likely be us getting Eriksson and Ottawa getting Seguin. Even though, in hindsight, that trade seems to favor Dallas, Boston got Smith in that deal, and Eriksson looked to be a perfect fit.
Eriksson also suffered two concussions this season, one in October and another in December. He never really got a chance to gel with his teammates while at full health. It remains to be seen if he will ever be the same player again.

It's a terrible comparison, because beyond all the reasons you just mentioned, other circumstances prevents Eriksson from showing why he was worth Seguin.

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06-30-2014, 08:12 PM
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I'd give Stralman 6 years. The style of game he plays will likely be very effective through most of those years.

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That is an 11 million dollar difference
So its the years he wants? fine give him 6 but no more than 4 per and let him choose

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06-30-2014, 08:13 PM
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That is an 11 million dollar difference
An 11 million difference over 6 years in salary. Which is what he meant by "security for family".

Its a 500K difference in cap space.

What are you doing with the 500K.

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06-30-2014, 08:14 PM
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...and whats with everyone saying Boyle turns it up a notch in the playoffs? How many goals did he score 2 in post season? Where's he turning it up exactly?He plays the same great PK and very solid defensively whether its in season or PO's...I have grown to accept him even with his short comings offensively and physical play or lack there of....If someone wants to pay him above 2m you let him walk...Buffalo wants him on the first or second line? no wonder they are doormats
He does step it up in the playoffs.

Last three seasons he has 2.6 hits per game in the regular season, 3.1 pr game playoffs. 0.24 points/game regular season, 0.35 points pr game playoffs.

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06-30-2014, 08:15 PM
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An 11 million difference over 6 years in salary. Which is what he meant by "security for family".

Its a 500K difference in cap space.

What are you doing with the 500K.
So what about 6/24 from NY.

vs.

6/27 or 6/30 from other team.

Now is it the Rangers' stupidity or his greed?

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06-30-2014, 08:16 PM
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An 11 million difference over 6 years in salary. Which is what he meant by "security for family".

Its a 500K difference in cap space.

What are you doing with the 500K.
Signing Stastny

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Eriksson also suffered two concussions this season, one in October and another in December. He never really got a chance to gel with his teammates while at full health. It remains to be seen if he will ever be the same player again.

It's a terrible comparison, because beyond all the reasons you just mentioned, other circumstances prevents Eriksson from showing why he was worth Seguin.
Right, I forgot about the concussions. Eriksson is one of the more underrated players in the NHL.

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Can we turn it around and say is 500K that much less?
No.

Are you filling a roster spot with 500K? Then no you can't. That 500K isn't going to make or break any player that would be more valuable moving forward.

Hassle over 500K and you end up with garbage like Fayne.

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So its the years he wants? fine give him 6 but no more than 4 per and let him choose
Agreed.

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So what about 6/24 from NY.

vs.

6/27 or 6/30 from other team.

Now is it the Rangers' stupidity or his greed?
If you draw the line somewhere it should be above the 4.5.

If he gets 5 from someone else, then sure, call it what ever you want.

To hassle over 4 and 4.5 is stupid.

4.5 and 5 is different. Now you are talking a full million over the original 4 million offer. 1 million can fill a roster spot. 500K can't.

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I'm wondering if they're going after Dan Boyle to try to replace Stralman...ugh

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New thread.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...5#post87355055

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I'm wondering if they're going after Dan Boyle to try to replace Stralman...ugh
He wants 5 x 2.

Penny pinch with Stralman over the difference between 4 and 4.5.

But throw 5 at 38 year old Boyle without hesitation.

Sounds like Sather.

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