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06-30-2014, 02:14 PM
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If Gorges is gone there's definitely a good chance Tinordi will make the team and be taking a lot of his PK minutes. Markov, Emelin and Subban all played quite a bit of time on the PK last year as well.
No. Even Diaz played more time on the PK than PK. Weaver almost as much in 1/4 of the games.

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06-30-2014, 02:15 PM
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If Gorges is gone there's definitely a good chance Tinordi will make the team and be taking a lot of his PK minutes. Markov, Emelin and Subban all played quite a bit of time on the PK last year as well.
We're talking quality minutes though. Gorges is one of the best penalty killers in the entire league, Markov and Emelin both struggled on the PK last year, Markov especially toward the end of the season.

I trust Subban on the PK because there is literally nothing he can't do, and while I like Tinordi on the PK in the future, and giving him some kind of role this year on the PK, Josh Gorges he is not.

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Can't blame Gorges for not wanting to go to Toronto, especially if you want to win lol
Still better than potentially getting put on waivers and getting claimed by Buffalo.

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We're talking quality minutes though. Gorges is one of the best penalty killers in the entire league, Markov and Emelin both struggled on the PK last year, Markov especially toward the end of the season.

I trust Subban on the PK because there is literally nothing he can't do, and while I like Tinordi on the PK in the future, and giving him some kind of role this year on the PK, Josh Gorges he is not.
Again, our PK improved to 89% with PK there instead of Gorges (and without Murray) during Gorges's injury this year. So we can be just fine without him (and Murray for that matter).

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06-30-2014, 02:18 PM
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Why the HE double hockey sticks would you want Dan Boyle he is 38 years old,and he sure did a lot to help San Jose in the playoffs,i would rather take my chance with right handed shot D-man Magnus Nygren and his 105 MPH slapshot.
IF we can sign Boyle to a 1 year deal, that would be a great stop gap until one of Beaulieu, Tinordi or Nygren can play a bigger role. At any rate Boyle is a lot better than Gorges overall.

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Still better than potentially getting put on waivers and getting claimed by Buffalo.
I don't think it is. bufallo might be good in a couple of years(if he were to still be on the team)Toronto is just Toronto.

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06-30-2014, 02:19 PM
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I read on an article that the trade was this:

Lupul and Franson for Gorges

I'll try to find the link and post it

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@DarrenDreger: Brendan Shanahan continues to try and encourage Josh Gorges to accept trade to the Maple Leafs. So far, no luck, but still a chance.

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I hope Gorges situation ends in a trade than potential waived or bought out. Habs need to spends some $$$ to acquire some offensive forwards.

Ever since MB became GM, he went out to get players who are tough defensive players, and I'm hoping this off season, he goes out to get offensive minded players.

I don't mind being one of top shot blocking teams in NHL but for once, at least can we be one of top guns in offensive teams like Chicago has been about every season.

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@DarrenDreger: Brendan Shanahan continues to try and encourage Josh Gorges to accept trade to the Maple Leafs. So far, no luck, but still a chance.
Doooo it Josh.

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I would love to know what the return is before I start rooting for Shanahan to convince Gorges to accept a trade.

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IF we can sign Boyle to a 1 year deal, that would be a great stop gap until one of Beaulieu, Tinordi or Nygren can play a bigger role. At any rate Boyle is a lot better than Gorges overall.
That goes without saying. Boyle pushing 40 on one leg is better than Gorges overall. I still think Boyle will end up in Tampa though.

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To me, waiving or trading Josh Gorges for any trash player would be a terrible asset management.

I'm well aware Bergevin wants to clear some cap space, but trading someone as useful as Gorges for peanuts only because he's overpaid by a few is terrible.
Perhaps small non physical, no offense dmen with partial NTC paid 3.9M/per for the next 4 years are not as interesting to actual NHL GMs as we might believe.

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That goes without saying. Boyle pushing 40 on one leg is better than Gorges overall. I still think Boyle will end up in Tampa though.
It would be a good fit. Maybe why Yzerman is making room.

Tomorrow is going to be an interesting day for sure. So happy to be on vacation right now.

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If the only piece coming back is Franson the pylon, I'm going to puke.

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The rumor is that it's for Franson...not a fan of that deal. Franson to be is a #5 guy who can help the PP.

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Josh is a good asset, I dont much care if its TO but no way someone does not step up to trade for him before any waiver. IF Mb want to add to the war chest before tomorrow what will come back the the habs is a good pick or prospect.
This is all good, the bottom line is, Josh just lost his job to Beaulieu and Tinordi, and that is as it should be. This happens to EVERY player eventually.

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06-30-2014, 02:24 PM
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@DarrenDreger: Brendan Shanahan continues to try and encourage Josh Gorges to accept trade to the Maple Leafs. So far, no luck, but still a chance.
Gorges doesn't want to leave an organization booting his ass out the door and won't go to an organization who is begging for him

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06-30-2014, 02:24 PM
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I feel bad for ya Josh,and knowing you don't want to leave .... hockey can be cruel at times.. the money has taken over and everyone is just commodity now...just part of the big money .....like cattle no question,nothing more than a numbers game.


You gave Habs great service,you can hold your head VERY high as a Montreal Canadien.

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The best part of all this is tat Gorges can't be captain anymore. I will sleep good tonight.

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The rumor is that it's for Franson...not a fan of that deal. Franson to be is a #5 guy who can help the PP.
If it's to make room for Boyle/Robidas/Niskanen/Ehrhoff + Franson on the bottom line (and a pick - can't see it be a pure 1 on 1 deal), then I'd be pretty pleased.

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The rumor is that it's for Franson...not a fan of that deal. Franson to be is a #5 guy who can help the PP.
Franson was not liked by the coach in Toronto. Perhaps a change of scenery would help him become a better player. We all know Toronto sucks anyway. He does have an interesting overall package even if he hasn't put it all together.

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Maybe it's Gorges for Phaneuf

Captain for Captain!

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Franson.. youngish 6'5" pylon who's underperformed in the Maple Leafs' ABYSMAL system..

I'd be willing to give him a chance. Wouldn't mind him against, let's say, the Bruins.

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The best part of all this is tat Gorges can't be captain anymore. I will sleep good tonight.
But you know, he was captain of his junior team once!

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