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06-30-2014, 02:27 PM
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Hopefully it's for Polak. He would be the perfect fit.

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@DarrenDreger: Brendan Shanahan continues to try and encourage Josh Gorges to accept trade to the Maple Leafs. So far, no luck, but still a chance.
For Lupul and Franson(rumour)? yikes

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The rumor is that it's for Franson...not a fan of that deal. Franson to be is a #5 guy who can help the PP.
Apparently it is for Franson and Lupul, read on tsn facebook

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Yeah if it's Gorges for Franson straight up...no thanks.

Whatever the deal in place is, both teams clearly feel like they're coming out ahead with the way each side is trying to convince Gorges to waive.

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Franson was not liked by the coach in Toronto. Perhaps a change of scenery would help him become a better player. We all know Toronto sucks anyway. He does have an interesting overall package even if he hasn't put it all together.
We would end up with two emelins. Third pairing d-men paid like top 4 guys. Not a recipe for success.

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Maybe it's Gorges for Phaneuf

Captain for Captain!
why the hell would we trade for that dumb as rocks, overpaid pylon?

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I read on an article that the trade was this:

Lupul and Franson for Gorges

I'll try to find the link and post it
Lupul makes no sense at all...he would have negative value.

4 years left at 5.25 mil and injury prone. Plus he is a LW which we don't need.

Can't see the habs touching Lupul with a 20 foot pole.

If Franson is involved, i would want a top pick or prospect coming back.

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Apparently it is for Franson and Lupul, read on tsn facebook
So much for clearing cap space with that trade

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Yeah if it's Gorges for Franson straight up...no thanks.

Whatever the deal in place is, both teams clearly feel like they're coming out ahead with the way each side is trying to convince Gorges to waive.
Hopefully a 2nd rounder or good prospect coming back as well.

We can only hope..

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Apparently it is for Franson and Lupul, read on tsn facebook
That's an awful lot coming back for Gorges.. Lupul being injury prone or not. In that scenario we'd have to move Bourque out and have either Chucky or Lupul playing on the 3rd line..

Unless Lupul has become a RW?

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For Lupul and Franson(rumour)? yikes
We would pick up a quality forward and someone who could produce on the backend. I'd do it.

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So much for clearing cap space with that trade
Makes no sense. Want to dump Gorge's salary? Better take Lupul's 5,2M$ back!

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Maybe it's time to not do 1 on 1 deals but kinda package it for something interesting....I would not like a Gorges for Franson despite Franson qualities. I just feel that despite all of that, he's not that good defensively.

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The best part of all this is tat Gorges can't be captain anymore. I will sleep good tonight.
A lot of people thought that Gorges could possibly be captain, but in light of recent events I strongly doubt this was ever a real possibility.

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Hopefully a 2nd rounder or good prospect coming back as well.

We can only hope..
Only one that makes sense to me is gorges for gardiner. If berg really trades gorges for franson straight up he has a pro scout or two to fire.

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If memory serves me right (Visnovsky to NYI), Gorges waiving his NTC would mean the team getting him would have the choice to continue honoring it or not. That might be a significant factor in refusing the trade.

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Gorges' wife is expecting a child within the week.

Talk about bad timing.

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We would pick up a quality forward and someone who could produce on the backend. I'd do it.
Lupul gets carried. He's not that good.

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Franson was not liked by the coach in Toronto. Perhaps a change of scenery would help him become a better player. We all know Toronto sucks anyway. He does have an interesting overall package even if he hasn't put it all together.
A lot of Leafs fan feel Carlyle didn't use Franson well at all. Similar to how some of us feel Therrien doesn't know how to use Eller.
He's big, young, physical, and can play on the PP. He's still a RFA and probably wouldn't get a big raise. I wouldn't mind taking a gamble. But I don't think a 1 for 1 swap is fair value for Gorges either.

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Dave Stubbs is such a cheerleader... Jesus... The guy's crying all over Twitter...

Dave Stubbs ‏@Dave_Stubbs 1m

On top of it all: #Habs Gorges's wife, Maggie, is expecting couple's first child within a week. Business of hockey can be a cruel thing

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Lupul makes no sense at all...he would have negative value.

4 years left at 5.25 mil and injury prone. Plus he is a LW which we don't need.

Can't see the habs touching Lupul with a 20 foot pole.

If Franson is involved, i would want a top pick or prospect coming back.
We ain't going to get a top prospect cause they don't have many and the 2 they have they ain't moving

I get the feeling the Habs are headed in a direction and they simply want to move Gorges, they just want the cap space

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why the hell would we trade for that dumb as rocks, overpaid pylon?
I would take Phaneuf, but not at 7 mil AAV.

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That's an awful lot coming back for Gorges.. Lupul being injury prone or not. In that scenario we'd have to move Bourque out and have either Chucky or Lupul playing on the 3rd line..

Unless Lupul has become a RW?
Not even sure anymore if the Habs care or not who plays on which side. Which is a TERRIBLE mistake to not care about that. So let's hope they do.

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Only one that makes sense to me is gorges for gardiner. If berg really trades gorges for franson straight up he has a pro scout or two to fire.
Before making such absolute claims, I do believe we ought to see Franson in a different environment than Toronto.

He only played 20min/game, and was on the 2nd PP and he still got 33 pts. He's 6'05 and big dmen like that tend to develop a little later.

He's only 26.

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I don't think Franson is as bad as everyone is painting him. He wouldn't be on our top pairing and likely wouldn't be getting significant second pairing minutes either. He could give us a legitimate second unit PP too. He's also just about to turn 27, he could still improve when you consider he only made the NHL a few years ago. Obviously it would not be a great return but it would not be the end of the world like some proclaim.

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