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07-01-2014, 10:33 AM
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30 min ago lebrun tweeted hawks still in negotiations with toews/kane.
I have to believe the Toews and Kane signings aren't going to coincide with the signing of a 2C...whomever it is. I have to believe that anything the Hawks do today will impact what they sign Toews and Kane for, and as such, they're definitely in communication with the two to see how they can make contracts work while simultaneously improving the team around them. I obviously don't know this for sure, but it's just a feeling I have.

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07-01-2014, 10:34 AM
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Can the people defending Bowman at least admit it is depressing seeing actual #2C option on market and they are going for scraps

Kesler would have fit cap wise with 2 simple moves (Bickell + one of Rozy/Versteeg or Leddy)

That Angelo comparison is good

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Would love for them to *take less* and sign around 9.5ish each.
Anything under 10 is a huge win for the Hawks

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the funny part of all this is the complaints about our competition getting better and the moves they are making is just allowing these teams to even catch up to us. the Hawks haven't done a thing really yet besides let go some dead weight and Anaheim, Dallas, etc are still behind us overall IMO. Are they closing the gap? yes, they are, but they certainly haven't passed us yet with their moves. Shows you how deep and talented we truly are.

I would still love a legit #2C, but we are still the big dogs in our division make no mistake about it.
Hawks are an injury to Toews away from Shaw and Kruger being our 1/2 C's

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Not like we can't trade him now and get someone better.
explain to me exactly how we do this.


we trade on non producing, slow, lazy, overpaid left winger for a better player.... because forgive me, but i just can't see other teams lining up to make that trade

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Still going to give the Stan the whole off-season before I judge him on, well, the whole off-season.

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Can the people defending Bowman at least admit it is depressing seeing actual #2C option on market and they are going for scraps

Kesler would have fit cap wise with 2 simple moves (Bickell + one of Rozy/Versteeg or Leddy)

That Angelo comparison is good
Literally every off season and trade deadline people declare the Hawks doomed and elevate every other team to elite status.

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Anything under 10 is a huge win for the Hawks
If they were taking less then 10 it would have been done

Expect 10.5M-12M and longterm cap struggle for Hawks

May very well become like the Penguins of last 5 years and struggle to get out of 2nd round

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Can the people defending Bowman at least admit it is depressing seeing actual #2C option on market and they are going for scraps

Kesler would have fit cap wise with 2 simple moves (Bickell + one of Rozy/Versteeg or Leddy)

That Angelo comparison is good
No, because there is hockey after 2015 and whatever center you think you could get for "scraps" now will cost bigger chunks in the future.

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Oh, come on now. A tweet about the Hawks working on a single free agent and suddenly that's all we're doing?

Sheesh... sorry, but this is getting ridiculous already.
When your competitors are dramatically improving and the team you root for stands pat, frustration and venting is a logical reaction.

It feels like people forget how recently removed we are from first round losses. There is such a thin line between winning and losing in this league.

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Remember when we didn't get parise or suter and were doomed to watching this roster only win the presidents trophy and Stanley cup?

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Can the people defending Bowman at least admit it is depressing seeing actual #2C option on market and they are going for scraps

Kesler would have fit cap wise with 2 simple moves (Bickell + one of Rozy/Versteeg or Leddy)

That Angelo comparison is good
Hawks didn't want to give up TT and or Saad...I can respect that big time...

I agree watching other teams get players kind of sucks every year, but how do you think these other teams feel every year seeing us throw out there Keith, Seabs, Hammer, Hossa, Kane, Toews, Sharp, Shaw, Saad, etc.. for those fans and teams it is a season long nightmare to be in our skates.

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Hawks are an injury to Toews away from Shaw and Kruger being our 1/2 C's
While I agree it needs to be addressed. In fairness, most teams are screwed if their best player is injured.

Stan obviously wants to fill the #2 center hole from the draft. He's been drafting mostly centers with his high picks since 2010. Hasn't worked out yet.

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explain to me exactly how we do this.


we trade on non producing, slow, lazy, overpaid left winger for a better player.... because forgive me, but i just can't see other teams lining up to make that trade
Dump him speak and spell, duh.

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Literally every off season and trade deadline people declare the Hawks doomed and elevate every other team to elite status.
And what happened in this years playoff vs Kings? Did not a glaring hole finally get exposed?

And the Hawks aren't that far off from being back to level of team that couldn't get out of first round a few years ago

But yeah lets pretend all is well

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Hawks are an injury to Toews away from Shaw and Kruger being our 1/2 C's
how many teams are not in that same boat?

and don't ignore those wingers we have

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If they were taking less then 10 it would have been done

Expect 10.5M-12M and longterm cap struggle for Hawks

May very well become like the Penguins of last 5 years and struggle to get out of 2nd round
The cap coming in at 69 may have changed things which is why they are still negotiating and not signing deals

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Dump him speak and spell, duh.
much as i thought - you have a lot to say about what a terrible job our GM is doing but nothing to offer in the way of solutions.

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Renaud lavoie just tweeted two teams in the running for bolland are the panthers... and the blues.

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much as i thought - you have a lot to say about what a terrible job our GM is doing but nothing to offer in the way of solutions.
I've offered them a million times:

Bickell
Rozsival
Versteeg
Oduya

Dump as many as it takes, any combination and I don't give a **** if we even get anything back. ****, at these prices, that package probably gets you Kesler or Spezza!!!

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Ok moving on from C why hasn't Bowman done anything to fix that god awful 3rd pairing? Why did he throw away a 2nd on Rundblad?

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And what happened in this years playoff vs Kings? Did not a glaring hole finally get exposed?

And the Hawks aren't that far off from being back to level of team that couldn't get out of first round a few years ago

But yeah lets pretend all is well
The hawks didn't lose because of a lack of a center. They lost because their PK fell apart and because of a wild bounce in OT. Really the biggest difference was the Kings were healthy this year and had a few kids step up. Having Shaw hurt to start the series hurt a lot.

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Oh, come on now. A tweet about the Hawks working on a single free agent and suddenly that's all we're doing?

Sheesh... sorry, but this is getting ridiculous already.
Yes, it is. Hawks are supposed to trade multiple D-men or multiple players so that they can sign 1 guy?

Meanwhile there is no cap space to fill the holes created by losing 2 of Rozy/Oduya/Leddy/Bickell.

Bwc offers no solutions for that problem, however.

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The cap coming in at 69 may have changed things which is why they are still negotiating and not signing deals
Yep. Changes the calculations.

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Renaud lavoie just tweeted two teams in the running for bolland are the panthers... and the blues.
Eww, I can't envision Bolly with that ugly Blue note on his chest.

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