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07-01-2014, 08:12 PM
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It's probably going to be Tokarski being moved out, it's what makes the most sense.
Happy you don't run the team haha. In no way does that make the most sense.

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Happy you don't run the team haha. In no way does that make the most sense.
How does it not make sense? Trade while his value is high and you might be able to get a a decent return because i guarantee you he will leave for free agency/ ask for a trade to a team that's looking for a starter.

Instead let's trade Budaj who's been as good a backup can get without creating goalie controversy.

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Habs and Jets been talking for a last few seasons.....everyone on Jets roster except 3 are now avail....Dudley's old stompin grounds.Gotta wait and see.



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It might make some sense for the jets to pursue tokarski. Montoya is gone and pavelec has lost their trust as a bonafide #1.

Tokarski is a pararie boy that might look attractive as a secondary price to some larger deal. Habs have the goalie depth to make it happen.

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07-02-2014, 12:02 AM
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There has to be a trade in the works for either Buds or Toks.

I am assuming it is for Buds and said team is waiting for answers back on UFA goalies.

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There has to be a trade in the works for either Buds or Toks.

I am assuming it is for Buds and said team is waiting for answers back on UFA goalies.
Nah I just think its to replace Dubnyk for now. Theres no need to replace Tokarski or Budaj if one of them is moved.

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07-02-2014, 05:44 AM
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Trading Tokarski? No...unless he (Tokarski) can be packaged for something pretty sweet, I really really hope not.
Exactly.

Imo, it would take a lot (very very sweet deal), or I'd forget about it (if up to me). I want Tokar as our backup.
(I'd keep Tokarski...backup position is so underrated, imo).

IF Price gets injured again in playoffs (*knock on wood against that*...we all want Tokarski, not Budaj.

Budaj has to be traded.

Bergevin (if he can) should wait until the best pick/deal can be made for Budaj (no rush?)...you can even wait until a few teams get injuries to their goalies and more teams will give more for Budaj, etc,etc.
(IF Bergevin can play the waiting game, but not too long since Budaj, I think, makes 1.5 mil? gotta get rid of that, imo).


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07-02-2014, 10:15 PM
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Did we trade Budaj and I'm not aware? Do they know something we don't?

http://www.ngnews.ca/Sports/2014-07-...organization/1

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On Tuesday the 34-year-old Pictou native signed a one-year, two-way contract with the Montreal Canadiens organization. MacDonald is expected to play with their AHL affiliate, the Hamilton Bulldogs, as Carey Price and Dustin Tokarski are currently slated to hold the two spots with the NHL club.
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“I’m going to try to make that jump,” said MacDonald in Wednesday’s interview with The News. “I know I played 30 some games at the NHL level with Calgary (over two seasons), so I’m still able to compete at that level. They have Price and Tokarski, but he (Tokarski) hasn’t played a lot in the NHL and he’s on a two-way contract to start out, so we’ll look at things more once we get to camp.”

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07-02-2014, 10:49 PM
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Not that I mind having a local guy to cheer for a bit, but what the deuce is Joey MacDonald doing in our depth chart?!

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Not that I mind having a local guy to cheer for a bit, but what the deuce is Joey MacDonald doing in our depth chart?!
He's playing the Marc Denis role.

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Did we trade Budaj and I'm not aware? Do they know something we don't?

http://www.ngnews.ca/Sports/2014-07-...organization/1
Seriously, why is everyone talking like Budaj is already gone?

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This signing means nothing. Budaj is still the number 2 goalie for now. I can't see a team wanting him.
Actually it means everything. That and the fact that Tokarski has to pass waivers.

I heard a few rumors about Budaj the last couple of weeks, as other dominoes fall, I'm sure MB will find a team that needs a veteran back up and move him.

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Likely pundits extrapolating from Budaj sitting in favor of Tokarski during the playoffs. A little early to count out Budaj. As for the Tokarski waiver exposure issue, I understand it's not cut and dried.

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Did we trade Budaj and I'm not aware? Do they know something we don't?

http://www.ngnews.ca/Sports/2014-07-...organization/1
Maybe he knows Budaj is getting traded and he indirectly let it slip...

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Likely pundits extrapolating from Budaj sitting in favor of Tokarski during the playoffs. A little early to count out Budaj. As for the Tokarski waiver exposure issue, I understand it's not cut and dried.
And add the signing of MacDonald and we have all indications that one of Budaj or Tokarski will go before September...

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It might make some sense for the jets to pursue tokarski. Montoya is gone and pavelec has lost their trust as a bonafide #1.

Tokarski is a pararie boy that might look attractive as a secondary price to some larger deal. Habs have the goalie depth to make it happen.
I don't see the Habs letting him go cheap and I don't see the Jets paying a lot for an unproven goalie.

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I don't see the Habs letting him go cheap and I don't see the Jets paying a lot for an unproven goalie.
read an article from Winnipeg,debating Budaj or James Reimer ,to back up Pav......

Seeing near everyone is avail in Winnipeg,might as well think big..lol



http://www.winnipegsun.com/2014/07/0...r-deal-by-jets
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The Jets have committed to Ondrej Pavelec as their starter going and have Connor Hellebuyck and Jussi Olkinuora under contract.

Eric Comrie, the Jets’ 2013 second rounder, will be ready to turn pro after next season, so bringing someone in for more than one year seems unlikely.

Could the Jets try to acquire someone like Morweena product James Reimer from the Toronto Maple Leafs or Peter Budaj from the Montreal Canadiens?

In the case of Budaj, it looks like he’ll be pushed out after the emergence of Dustin Tokarski during the Stanley Cup playoffs.

Budaj, 31, has one year left on his deal at $1.4 million and could probably be acquired for less than what it would take to get Reimer.


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The market for backup goalies is nil - there is not one; most every team is set. Winnipeg needs a back-up, Phoenix might need a better back-up, and that's all. The Leafs want to move Reimer, Brodeur wants a job, and Tim Thomas might want one as well. Hell, even Bryzgalov is available.

Everyone here talks like it will be so easy to trade Budaj, and that Tokarski is the 2nd coming and teams will be lining up to offer top value for him. NOT gonna happen.

Budaj will have to be given away to save cap $. If a deal can't be made, MacDonald was signed to have a veteran goalie in Hamilton in the event Tokarski doesn't clear waivers.

Goalie rundown:

Boston: Rask/Svedberg (all Boston can afford is a 600K, AHL backup)
Buffalo: Enroth/Neuvirth/Hackett
Detroit: Howard/Gustafsson
Florida: Luongo/Montoya/Ellis
Tampa Bay: Bishop/Nabokov/Vasilevski
Ottawa: Anderson/Lehner
Toronto: Bishop/Reimer

New Jersey: Schneider/Clemmensen
NYR: Lundqvist/Talbot
NYI: Halak/Chad Johnson
Pittsburgh: MAF/Greiss
Philly: Mason/Emery
Columbus: Bobrovsky/McEhlinney
Carolina: Ward/Khudobin
Washington: Holtby/Peters

Chicago: Crawford/Raanta
St-Louis: Elliott/Allen
Nashville: Rinne/Hutton
Winnipeg: Pavelec/????
Minnesota: Backstrom/Harding/Kuemper
Colorado: Varlamov/Bera
Dallas: Lehtonen/Lindback

Vancouver: Miller/Lack/Markstrom
Edmonton: Scrivens/Fasth
Calgary: Hiller/Ramo
San Jose: Niemi/Stalock
Anaheim: Gibson/Andersson/Labarbera
LA: Quick/Jones
Arizona: Smith/Dubnyk

So who's making a trade, and giving up anything of value, for Budaj or Tokarski? Even if our guys are better than some of the players above, the above are under contract and have $ coming to them.

Get ready to hear: Habs have traded Budaj for a 4th round pick, or for "future considerations".

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07-03-2014, 01:55 PM
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read an article from Winnipeg,debating Budaj or James Reimer ,to back up Pav......

Seeing near everyone is avail in Winnipeg,might as well think big..lol



http://www.winnipegsun.com/2014/07/0...r-deal-by-jets
I don't think Winnipeg will give up a good asset(top pick or good young player) to Toronto for Reimer. Nonis is saying he won't let him go cheap.

I could see Budaj going for a 3rd to 5th rounder.

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The market for backup goalies is nil - there is not one; most every team is set. Winnipeg needs a back-up, Phoenix might need a better back-up, and that's all. The Leafs want to move Reimer, Brodeur wants a job, and Tim Thomas might want one as well. Hell, even Bryzgalov is available.

Everyone here talks like it will be so easy to trade Budaj, and that Tokarski is the 2nd coming and teams will be lining up to offer top value for him. NOT gonna happen.

Budaj will have to be given away to save cap $. If a deal can't be made, MacDonald was signed to have a veteran goalie in Hamilton in the event Tokarski doesn't clear waivers.

Goalie rundown:

Boston: Rask/Svedberg (all Boston can afford is a 600K, AHL backup)
Buffalo: Enroth/Neuvirth/Hackett
Detroit: Howard/Gustafsson
Florida: Luongo/Montoya/Ellis
Tampa Bay: Bishop/Nabokov/Vasilevski
Ottawa: Anderson/Lehner
Toronto: Bishop/Reimer

New Jersey: Schneider/Clemmensen
NYR: Lundqvist/Talbot
NYI: Halak/Chad Johnson
Pittsburgh: MAF/Greiss
Philly: Mason/Emery
Columbus: Bobrovsky/McEhlinney
Carolina: Ward/Khudobin
Washington: Holtby/Peters

Chicago: Crawford/Raanta
St-Louis: Elliott/Allen
Nashville: Rinne/Hutton
Winnipeg: Pavelec/????
Minnesota: Backstrom/Harding/Kuemper
Colorado: Varlamov/Bera
Dallas: Lehtonen/Lindback

Vancouver: Miller/Lack/Markstrom
Edmonton: Scrivens/Fasth
Calgary: Hiller/Ramo
San Jose: Niemi/Stalock
Anaheim: Gibson/Andersson/Labarbera
LA: Quick/Jones
Arizona: Smith/Dubnyk

So who's making a trade, and giving up anything of value, for Budaj or Tokarski? Even if our guys are better than some of the players above, the above are under contract and have $ coming to them.

Get ready to hear: Habs have traded Budaj for a 4th round pick, or for "future considerations".

I don't think "future considerations" are still allowed in the NHL...haven't heard a deal like that in awhile...

A 4th would be fine as a return.

I don't see MB and co risking losing Tokarski on waivers.

Bryzgalov, I expect him to go to the KHL for bigger money than an NHL back up.

Thomas and Brodeur both look done. Neither had much in the tank last year.

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I don't think Winnipeg will give up a good asset(top pick or good young player) to Toronto for Reimer. Nonis is saying he won't let him go cheap.

I could see Budaj going for a 3rd to 5th rounder.
Another rational comment. Nice to see

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Another rational comment. Nice to see
So, you're saying Winnipeg would give up more than a 5th for Budaj ?

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I don't think "future considerations" are still allowed in the NHL...haven't heard a deal like that in awhile...
Nashville sent us Devan Dubnyk last year for futures I think

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So, you're saying Winnipeg would give up more than a 5th for Budaj ?
If they see Budaj as a fit...yes, possibly

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I think the only way the Habs will be able to trade Budaj is for a lesser back-up and a 7th round pick. Or they will need to retain a big part of his salary. Bergevin drop the ball by not having trade Budaj before the 1st July.

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I think the only way the Habs will be able to trade Budaj is for a lesser back-up and a 7th round pick. Or they will need to retain a big part of his salary. Bergevin drop the ball by not having trade Budaj before the 1st July.
Usually it's easier to trade most players after the initial UFA frenzy, teams will hold off on using their cap space or trading a pick for a player until a comparable guy is no longer available as a UFA.

For example: A team trading for Budaj may have missed out on Lindback or Greiss or Johnson...

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