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07-07-2014, 10:55 PM
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The one good thing about the Coyotes current situation is there really is no reason to hurry now. The "snap them up quick" players are all gone so at this point DM has literally up until training camp to wait around and see what might shake out. There's just no reason to rush to sign one of the question mark FA's (Seto, Booth, Heatley, Penner, etc.) as you can almost be assured at least one of them will be available later on should DM decide a stop gap is required. In fact I have a feeling DM is waiting for a worthwhile player to become available similar to how he landed Gagner. If one of those situations does not transpire don't be surprised if he opts to just give the kids a shot rather than sign an FA with a ton of question marks.
I completely agree! And they have nice chips like Klink's contract (1 yr/$625k), Chip's (2 yrs @ $875k) and Schlemko (1 yr @ $1.15m) that can be worked into a deal returning a player of greater value at a higher cap hit and have a cap restricted trade partner pick-up some/all of the difference in salaries. Potential deals:

Chip & Schlemko to Washington for Brouwer (2 yrs @ $3.7m) Yotes get a T6 physical winger who scored 25 goals last year. Washington gets $1.7m cap relief this year and $2.6m next.

Chip & Schlemko to Boston for Boycheck (1yr @ $3.6m) Yotes get exactly the type of Dman they need. Boston gets $1.5M in cap relief

Klink to Philly for Coutourier (2 yrs @ $1.7m) Yotes get a much better player. Philly gets a $1m of cap relief this year and Klink rolls off after the season.

Schlemko to Chicago for Rozy (1yr @ $2.2m) Yotes get a player that better fits their needs. Chicago gets $1m in cap relief

So why chase Heatley, Seto, etc when they can get much better players while picking up little to no additional salary.

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Chicago won't move anyone this season...it will be next season.
$2.2 million over cap today.

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I noticed that the Panthers are already retaining 50% of Versteeg's salary (full amount is $4.7M).

Should the Hawks move Versteeg, are they allowed to retain salary? In other words, can more than one team retain salary on a player?

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07-07-2014, 11:06 PM
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I'm 90% sure the answer is yes. I'm 99% sure the Hawks wouldn't need to.

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David Booth? I know it did not go well in Vancouver, but it wasn't that long ago that he was putting up 20+ goals in Florida.
David Booth was good before he got his brains scrambled..never been the same since.

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I noticed that the Panthers are already retaining 50% of Versteeg's salary (full amount is $4.7M).

Should the Hawks move Versteeg, are they allowed to retain salary? In other words, can more than one team retain salary on a player?
I may be wrong but I believe that more than 1 team can retain salary, but there is a limit to how much overall. And I think the overall max is 50%.

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David Booth was good before he got his brains scrambled..never been the same since.
Yeah, I think we better stay away from him, unless it's an ultra-cheap contract that doesn't go much above the likes of Klink/Chip.

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Klink to Philly for Coutourier (2 yrs @ $1.7m) Yotes get a much better player. Philly gets a $1m of cap relief this year and Klink rolls off after the season.
The other proposals are fine; this one has zero chance.

Philly's cap issues get easier to sort out when they can stick Pronger on LTIR.

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07-08-2014, 02:31 PM
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So why chase Heatley, Seto, etc when they can get much better players while picking up little to no additional salary.
Probably because your trade values are way, way off on most of those.

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given that we were very high on kevin hayes during his draft year I wonder if we dangle a potential roster spot to him in order to entice him to sign.

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Everything I've read makes it sound as though he has made up his mind already

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Everything I've read makes it sound as though he has made up his mind already
To sign where?

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What about a possibility for Patrick Sharp?

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To sign where?
Calgary.

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Calgary.
Really, the rumor I heard it was the Coyotes. And I should know, I started it!

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Really, the rumor I heard it was the Coyotes. And I should know, I started it!
Why do you think he's going to sign here?

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The other proposals are fine; this one has zero chance.

Philly's cap issues get easier to sort out when they can stick Pronger on LTIR.
I thought Pronger was already on LTIR

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I thought Pronger was already on LTIR
They have to wait until the season starts. That's the problem, they have to be cap compliance before the season starts and teams can't place players on LTIR until after the season starts.

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my guess is as good as anybody else.

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We are the anti-hawks. Where they are crowded up front, we've got more open spots than any other team in the league. His best chance of stealing a roster spot is right here.

Or at least one could argue as much. Haha.

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What about a possibility for Patrick Sharp?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Not going to happen.

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I thought Pronger was already on LTIR
They still need to get rid of LeCav.

I think they will take some bad contracts back as well, as long as each contract is not that much above league minimum (so they can be buried in the minors if need be.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=130

We on the other hand, need to worry about real dollars. So in that case, there may be a deal to be had, even though they need to shed salary (for cap reasons), and we can't take on much more (for internal budget reasons).

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Hey anybody suggest David Moss in this thread?

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Hey anybody suggest David Moss in this thread?
No way Don would do that. This is for a cheap replacement not a homeless guy.

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No way Don would do that. This is for a cheap replacement not a homeless guy.
I'm sure you heard the news:

http://coyotes.nhl.com/club/news.htm...id=DL|ARI|home

If not . . . . SURPRISE!

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I'm sure you heard the news:

http://coyotes.nhl.com/club/news.htm...id=DL|ARI|home

If not . . . . SURPRISE!
Oh the 10-20 posts expressing my happiness over this in the other thread is quite clear. In fact, all bad things in my house are now known as David Moss's.

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