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07-03-2014, 11:48 PM
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And to be fair to Turris, Hertl is a man child. Turris was about as big as RNH when he broke in.

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Doesn't matter. Guys with one year contracts going to UFA don't fetch much. Look at what Spezza got, a much better player than Ryan. If he's traded the return will be a 2nd and a B prospect or young RFA who's not part of a teams core. Maybe a 1st from a contender who really want Ryan at the deadline.
He won't be traded at deadline. He'll be moved in off-season and that increased his value.

Spezza was 31 year old 1 dimensional center who only Dallas was in on.

He almost got traded for Hornqivst+11th overall but he nixed the deal. Ryan doesn't have NTC and will be far more coveted.

Go spew bs somewhere else.

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Bobby Ryan isn't that good. He's not going to get anyones top prospect.
Bobby Ryan is a 27 year old 4 time 30 goal scoring PF.

He had 37 points in 41 games with 82 hits last season before being dragged down by hernia issues.

Lmao @ won't get top prospect and isn't that good.

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07-03-2014, 11:52 PM
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when was the last time a team traded their number one young up and comer ( in this case someone like Hertl).. ? Just wondering. I haven't heard of any such deals in a while. Correct me if I'm wrong?

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07-03-2014, 11:54 PM
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crazy talk

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07-03-2014, 11:55 PM
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I don't think Wilson understands what the word "rebuild" means. Because whatever we're doing right now is not a rebuild. It's more of a "destroy the team".


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07-03-2014, 11:58 PM
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I don't think Wilson understands what the word "rebuild" means. Because whatever we're doing right now is not a rebuild. It's more of a "destroy the team".

I don't think trading away our worst defenseman and signing a really bad 4th liner counts as "destroying the team". It's baffling, but at the very worst a lateral move.

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07-04-2014, 12:01 AM
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In terms of value:

Hertl
Couture

Turris


Ryan

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07-04-2014, 12:09 AM
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In terms of value:

Hertl
Couture

Turris


Ryan
Value to whom?

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07-04-2014, 12:10 AM
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In terms of value:

Hertl
Couture

Turris


Ryan
Try again buddy, one good year for Hertl does not make him the best of the four. Ryan and Turris are more proven than Hertl.

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07-04-2014, 12:12 AM
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Can't wait to get Neil.

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07-04-2014, 12:13 AM
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Try again buddy, one good year for Hertl does not make him the best of the four. Ryan and Turris are more proven than Hertl.
Try again buddy, no one said he was the best.

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07-04-2014, 12:18 AM
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Try again buddy, no one said he was the best.
sorry I took 'best' to be synomymous with 'value'. In any case, Hertl still does not have the highest 'value' on that list. He is a great player with high potential, but just how high and how long he will be good cannot be determined yet.

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07-04-2014, 12:19 AM
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Trade value.

Hertl is clearly has more trade value than either Turris or Ryan, and same can be said for Couture.

I'd be willing to give up RNH/Eberle/Yakupov/Draisaitl/Nurse/Klefbom for Hertl and Couture. But definitely not for Turris or Ryan.

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07-04-2014, 12:21 AM
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None of the "big" players on either team are going anywhere. So if there is a trade going down, it's most likely to be an "excess" forward from San Jose to Ottawa for picks or prospects. Someone like Kennedy.

Marleau and Thornton aren't going anywhere if they don't want to, and so far they have been pretty damn definite that they don't want to. The Sharks aren't moving Couture, Hertl, Nieto, or any of their "core" young talent. If Ottawa is looking for a top-6 center, the only one from the Sharks that they might get is Pavelski, and it would have to be for a stupid-level of over-payment given how much DW loves him.

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Trade value.

Hertl is clearly has more trade value than either Turris or Ryan, and same can be said for Couture.

I'd be willing to give up RNH/Eberle/Yakupov/Draisaitl for Hertl and Couture. But definitely not for Turris or Ryan.
Please explain why.

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07-04-2014, 12:25 AM
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Is it even possible to know how good Hertl is yet?
Is it even possible to know how good Turris is yet?

He's been trending upwards for 3 seasons in a row now, and he doesn't seem to be slowing down.

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07-04-2014, 12:30 AM
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I don't think trading away our worst defenseman and signing a really bad 4th liner counts as "destroying the team". It's baffling, but at the very worst a lateral move.
He's just sitting back doing nothing, letting our best trade chips' value deteriorate. While the other teams in our division have improved dramatically. Either we need to make a move to improve the team for this year, or start moving some guys to begin a true rebuild.

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07-04-2014, 12:33 AM
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If

for some reason

somehow

Joe Thornton comes to Ottawa

I'm going to be very, very angry

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07-04-2014, 12:37 AM
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Is it even possible to know how good Turris is yet?

He's been trending upwards for 3 seasons in a row now, and he doesn't seem to be slowing down.
Yeah, but that's three seasons of data/footage/what-have-you to look at in the NHL versus how many games for Hertl playing on a great line in a pretty stacked group of forwards? I think it's safer to talk about who and what Turris is going to be than Hertl.

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people think Kyle Turris is better and more valueable than Hertl? That's the most rediculous thing I have ever read.

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Why cause Hertl scored 4 goals once?

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Why cause Hertl scored 4 goals once?
Nah, because he's better.

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people think Kyle Turris is better and more valueable than Hertl? That's the most rediculous thing I have ever read.
LOL I know right. Ridiculous. Then again, Rundblad was suppose to be a superstar. And still waiting on Zibenejad to be a franchise 1C.

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07-04-2014, 01:05 AM
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DW: Joe, will you waive?
JT: Nope.

*Doesn't sign any helping piece on July 1st, instead signs three 4th line scrubs*

DW: Joe, will you waive now?
JT: Nope.

*Trades Pavelski to Senators*

If this has any traction to it, I bet its Pavs to the Senators. Prob for a 2015 1st + prospect.

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I do think it could be Pavs. DW has said that he's a part of the core going forward but I think he might just be saying that to try to raise his value.

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