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09-12-2005, 07:09 PM
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Bouwmeester Signs 1-year deal

http://www.floridapanthers.com/press...envanryn.shtml

Keenan announced today that D Jay Bouwmeester has agreed to terms on a one-year contract, completing the Panthers 2005 training camp roster.

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Yes first one in

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how much? my guess is $7.8

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Looks like GM's are making a big push to get their guys signed before camps open.

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how much? my guess is $7.8

7 dollars and 8 cents for 1 year? I doubth it

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7 dollars and 8 cents for 1 year? I doubth it
He obviously means 7 dollars and 80 cents.

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7 dollars and 8 cents for 1 year? I doubth it
He didn't say per year. Maybe its per minute.

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I'm just hoping they get busy THIS season. If the atmosphere can get changed to a WINNING one, then maybe it will be easier to cut some better deals.

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how much? my guess is $7.8
I wonder how much that of that Team Canada is picking up of that, since that's basically the only place he's done anything to warrant some decent cash. And even then he's flying under the "I can look good when you surround me with players much better then myself" banner.

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I wonder how much that of that Team Canada is picking up of that, since that's basically the only place he's done anything to warrant some decent cash. And even then he's flying under the "I can look good when you surround me with players much better then myself" banner.
Sadly even as a Panthers fan I agree with you.

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How old is J-Bo? Assuming he keeps getting One-Year deals when will he be a UFA?

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How old is J-Bo? Assuming he keeps getting One-Year deals when will he be a UFA?
He is eligible to become a UFA after the 2008-2009 season, I believe. (7 seasons in the league.)

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Bouwmeester hasn't signed his deal, but he's also expected to join the team in camp. The 21-year-old defenseman - the third overall pick by Florida in 2002 - set career highs with 18 assists and 20 points in 2003-04, his second NHL season.

http://www.nhl.com/news/2005/09/234386.html


The title should read that J BO has agreed to terms.

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Hey spongebob...you spelled Fukufuji wrong...and it's literally right below where you spelled it. Just thought you would like to know

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Bouwmeester hasn't signed his deal, but he's also expected to join the team in camp. The 21-year-old defenseman - the third overall pick by Florida in 2002 - set career highs with 18 assists and 20 points in 2003-04, his second NHL season.

http://www.nhl.com/news/2005/09/234386.html


The title should read that J BO has agreed to terms.
When you look at his stats, he's not very good at all ...when should people stop talking about his potential and begin to demand results.
Look at the comparables, and they have all outperformed Jaybo ...so, are these players better than Jaybo? ...their stats say that they are
...would you trade any of them straight up for Jaybo? which yes, and which no?

Jaybo 1st 2 years.
2002-2003 Panthers 82 4 12 16 -29
2003-2004 Panthers 61 2 18 20 -15

Pitkanen (on a good team)
2003-2004 Flyers 71 8 19 27 15

Hamhuis (on a bad team)
2003-2004 Predators 80 7 19 26 -12

Zidlicky (on a bad team)
2003-2004 Predators 82 14 39 53 -16

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When you look at his stats, he's not very good at all ...when should people stop talking about his potential and begin to demand results.
Look at the comparables, and they have all outperformed Jaybo ...so, are these players better than Jaybo? ...their stats say that they are
...would you trade any of them straight up for Jaybo? which yes, and which no?

Jaybo 1st 2 years.
2002-2003 Panthers 82 4 12 16 -29
2003-2004 Panthers 61 2 18 20 -15

Pitkanen (on a good team)
2003-2004 Flyers 71 8 19 27 15

Hamhuis (on a bad team)
2003-2004 Predators 80 7 19 26 -12

Zidlicky (on a bad team)
2003-2004 Predators 82 14 39 53 -16
These stats are pretty irrelevant in my opinion.

-Bouwmeester played on a horrible team.
-Pitkanen has better stats simply for the fact that he was on one of the top teams in the league last year.
-Not to mention that he played 10 more games than Bouwmeester, so I think if Bouwmeester played that 10 more games then the point gap would be less than the 7 points that it was. If Bouwmeester was on a better team then his stats would be even higher so I think that he would blow Pitkanen out of the water.

-As for Hamhuis and Zidlicky, they did not play on a bad team at all. They played on a team that finished with 16 more points than the team that Bouwmeester played on.
-They also played on a line together so ones points reflects the others.
-Not to mention the fact that Zidlicky is 6 years older than Bouwmeester so if you want to compare them put them on equal teams and look at Zidlicky's stats from last year and Bouwmeesters' in 6 years (5 now).
-Hamuis is only a year older but a year is a year and like I said he was on a way better team AND he played 19 more games than Bouwmeester. Figure out what Bouwmeesters points per game were last season (.33) and figure out how many points he would get in 19 more games (6 points) that would tie him with Hamuis, and like I said Bouwmeester is on a WWWWAAAAYYYYY worse team.

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Nice to see the Panthers sign their young D man. Still being young, and no where near his prime, JBO should only get better. Of course everyone knows DMen develop slower than other positions, except maybe goalies....right?

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These stats are pretty irrelevant in my opinion.

-Bouwmeester played on a horrible team.
-Pitkanen has better stats simply for the fact that he was on one of the top teams in the league last year.
-Not to mention that he played 10 more games than Bouwmeester, so I think if Bouwmeester played that 10 more games then the point gap would be less than the 7 points that it was. If Bouwmeester was on a better team then his stats would be even higher so I think that he would blow Pitkanen out of the water.

-As for Hamhuis and Zidlicky, they did not play on a bad team at all. They played on a team that finished with 16 more points than the team that Bouwmeester played on.
-They also played on a line together so ones points reflects the others.
-Not to mention the fact that Zidlicky is 6 years older than Bouwmeester so if you want to compare them put them on equal teams and look at Zidlicky's stats from last year and Bouwmeesters' in 6 years (5 now).
-Hamuis is only a year older but a year is a year and like I said he was on a way better team AND he played 19 more games than Bouwmeester. Figure out what Bouwmeesters points per game were last season (.33) and figure out how many points he would get in 19 more games (6 points) that would tie him with Hamuis, and like I said Bouwmeester is on a WWWWAAAAYYYYY worse team.
Good team != Good stats automatically
+/- it sure helps.

Points, assists, etc.. No.

Some players have stats go down on good teams because of reduced ice time and in some cases because the system is very defensive. Pitkanen got much less ice time then JBo and played in a much tighter system. Also, it was Pitkanen's first year in NA, and while I don't think that's an excuse for a major stat drop off, it certainly does make it a little harder on a young guy, especially one that doesn't speak the language.

To just say good team = good stats is ludicrous.

JBo was on a very good team for his AHL playoff run. You know how many points he scored going all the way to the finals? 0

Yeah, that kinda hurts your "JBo would blow Pitkanen's stats out of the water" arguement a little?



JBo got handed tons of ice time in Florida. Not earned, was handed.
Van Ryan vastly outscored him this past year in Florida. And the year before Lilja only scored 1 less point in 9 less game and with less ice time.

JBo has never been an offensive force. He didn't put up great offensive numbers in juniors. Didn't in the AHL. And certainly hasn't in the NHL. There's just a love fest with him and it's not based on what he's actually accomplished on the ice, but what people think he should be able to produce based on his skill set.


The bottom line is you have to actually look at the situation. You can't just go "good team = better individual stats".


One day JBo is just going to have to actually produce something. It's a little tiring hearing how great this kid is over and over and yet he doesn't produce. He still has time to do it, it's not time to write him off or anything, but come on. It's to the point where he could average 18 points a year for the next 12 years and some of you would consider him a lock for the HoF. You know, he played on a bad team after all.

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