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07-08-2014, 05:58 PM
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James Reimer

I have a couple of thought provoking questions regarding James Reimer.

1. Where do you think he will be after the march trade deadline/wheres the best fit?
2. What would be a fair deal in return?
3. How big of a cap hit does he deserve on his new contract?

Chances are he will be traded before march but at the latest the deadline.


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07-08-2014, 06:17 PM
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I have a couple of thought provoking questions regarding James Reimer.

1. Where do you think he will be after the march trade deadline/wheres the best fit?
2. What would be a fair deal in return?
3. How big of a cap hit does he deserve on his new contract?

Chances are he will be traded before march but at the latest the deadline.
Dick, my thoughts are this:

1. Winnipeg is the best fit;
2. 3rd round pick;
3. $2m per season.

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07-08-2014, 06:21 PM
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Well if the trend continues he's easily worth 3m. Want a return of 2nd + meh prospect(3rd-7th round).

What trend i speak of? Good season, bad season, good season, bad season, ???? season....

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1. It SHOULD be Toronto, but this management team is stupid, so probably somewhere like Winnipeg or someone looking for goaltending.

2. The return price lately for goalies hasn't been very good so probably a mid-round pick, or packaged with someone else for a roster player.

3. Same as Bernier's contract, hoping he doesn't get concussed this season he should be back above .915 save%.

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Worth 1.5million/year contract and if traded a 6th rounder a best. What 26 year old goalie can't use his trapper to catch a puck if his and his family's lives depended on it? James Reimer.

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07-08-2014, 07:31 PM
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Worth 1.5million/year contract and if traded a 6th rounder a best. What 26 year old goalie can't use his trapper to catch a puck if his and his family's lives depended on it? James Reimer.
So he's worth less than his current contract?

Not even getting into the bs you spewed after those first 4 words.

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So he's worth less than his current contract?

Not even getting into the bs you spewed after those first 4 words.
Yeah, Toronto sure is a good team to measure the value of players by the contracts their players have. Phaneuf, Clarkson...

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Yeah, Toronto sure is a good team to measure the value of players by the contracts their players have. Phaneuf, Clarkson...
Phaneuf would have got 6.0 or 6.5 on the market and Clarkson allegedly took less than he would have been offered elsewhere.

Just saying. TO (and all teams) give bad contracts though. For TO I'd say the Muskoka V NTC were far more harmful to the Leafs future than 3/71s.

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Phaneuf would have got 6.0 or 6.5 on the market and Clarkson allegedly took less than he would have been offered elsewhere.

Just saying. TO (and all teams) give bad contracts though. For TO I'd say the Muskoka V NTC were far more harmful to the Leafs future than 3/71s.
Phaneuf would have gotten more if you ask me.
Anyway, Reimer is a legit goaltender, I see him as a Steve Mason. A low risk, high reward investment that I believe will work out for whoever puts him in a starting role. Toronto disrespected him so much by trading for Bernier, they also stopped giving him a chance to regain the starter position after 15-20 games. I think they might get a 3rd + decent prospect, it could be a 2nd round pick if the team acquiring him can get a contract done for under 2.5M. I'd be happy if Ottawa acquired him for a 3rd+ and then we shipped out Anderson to a team like San Jose or somewhere else. We could run a Lehner-Reimer combo for about 2 years, then we'd let him go so he could sign as a starter somewhere else (I believe Lehner will be a top goalie during the 16-17 season).

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Gustavsson was traded to Winnipeg for a conditional 7th round pick. Imo Gustavsson is the better goalie but I reckon we could probably get a 3rd or 4th round pick for Reimer if we traded him to Winnipeg. And yes, Winnipeg is the most likely destination.

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I think a lot of people are making over simplifications on things here;

just because he's a Manitoba boy does not mean he'll end up in Winnipeg.
It's not automatic to assume his good-bad-good-bad trend will continue. It seems obvious he is a malcontent and goalies wanting out rarely have great seasons. I'd say it's more likely that his play suffers forcing the leafs to take what they can get.

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I think a lot of people are making over simplifications on things here;

just because he's a Manitoba boy does not mean he'll end up in Winnipeg.
It's not automatic to assume his good-bad-good-bad trend will continue. It seems obvious he is a malcontent and goalies wanting out rarely have great seasons. I'd say it's more likely that his play suffers forcing the leafs to take what they can get.
I think it's more because Winnipeg desperately needs an NHL goalie.

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Gustavsson was traded to Winnipeg for a conditional 7th round pick. Imo Gustavsson is the better goalie but I reckon we could probably get a 3rd or 4th round pick for Reimer if we traded him to Winnipeg. And yes, Winnipeg is the most likely destination.
People still think Gustavsson is a legitimate NHL goalie, let alone better than Reimer?

Oy vey, he's quickly becoming one of the most underrated goalies in the league.

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People still think Gustavsson is a legitimate NHL goalie, let alone better than Reimer?

Oy vey, he's quickly becoming one of the most underrated goalies in the league.
He's a legit backup. His save% wasn't very impressive last season, but he brought in a ton of wins.

Reimer isn't a legit starting goalie either. He'd be one of the absolute bottom starting goalies if he was to have a starting role.

Which of Gustavsson or Reimer I'd pick as my backup would 100% depend on which one is going to be cheaper.

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He's a legit backup. His save% wasn't very impressive last season, but he brought in a ton of wins.

Reimer isn't a legit starting goalie either. He'd be one of the absolute bottom starting goalies if he was to have a starting role.

Which of Gustavsson or Reimer I'd pick as my backup would 100% depend on which one is going to be cheaper.
That's absolutely ridiculous.

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That's absolutely ridiculous.
Which part? That Gustavsson did alright with 16-5-4 or that Reimer is a starter goalie in your book?

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I have a couple of thought provoking questions regarding James Reimer.

1. Where do you think he will be after the march trade deadline/wheres the best fit?
2. What would be a fair deal in return?
3. How big of a cap hit does he deserve on his new contract?

Chances are he will be traded before march but at the latest the deadline.
All depends on his play up until then. Right now with his play in the final month who would trust him as a starter. Right now a 4th rd pick at best.

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Which part? That Gustavsson did alright with 16-5-4 or that Reimer is a starter goalie in your book?
If I start working in the mail room of a Fortune 500 company, and their stock goes up 10% in my first month, does that mean I'm exceptional at doing mail-things?

Whether a goalie gets a win or a loss involves 2 factors: how many goals he allows, and how many goals his team scores. Goalies cannot impact their team scoring goals. You can allow 8 goals on 10 shots and still get a win, or allow 0 goals on 56 shots and still get a loss. Identical twin goalies with 100% equal skill in stopping pucks, on different teams, will have (potentially massively) different win/loss records.

Gustavsson is not an NHL calibre goaltender. His 5-yr save percentage is 68th of 69 goalies to play in 50 games. Every goaltender with a comparable save percentage is no longer in the NHL. The 10 goalies ahead of him are Ellis, Conklin, Khabibulin, Garon, Deslauriers, Chris Mason, Biron, Roloson, Peters, and McElhinney.

Also, Reimer isn't a star goalie or anything, but he's good enough to be an average starter.

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Also, Reimer isn't a star goalie or anything, but he's good enough to be an average starter.
Feel free to create a list of starting goalies Reimer is equal to or better.

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Winnipeg is by and far the best fit for Reimer.

Not only do they have likely the worst full time starting goalie in the entire league right now, but Reimer is a Manitoba boy who would likely sign a little bit cheaper to get a guaranteed shot to start a full season.

The recurring mantra from Jets fans though is that they refuse to acquire any other goalie while they have 3 more years @ 3.9 AAV tied up into a sieve

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1. It SHOULD be Toronto, but this management team is stupid, so probably somewhere like Winnipeg or someone looking for goaltending.

2. The return price lately for goalies hasn't been very good so probably a mid-round pick, or packaged with someone else for a roster player.

3. Same as Bernier's contract, hoping he doesn't get concussed this season he should be back above .915 save%.
Not sure why you say this. Bernier is the better goalie....hands down, Reimer wants to start and has asked to be traded.....how is this managements fault? Maybe Reimer could have helped himself late last season by....i don't know....maybe winning a couple of games instead of sucking donkey ballzz.

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Which part? That Gustavsson did alright with 16-5-4 or that Reimer is a starter goalie in your book?
The fact you use wins to judge who did better is laughable

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Why would Reimer be destined to Winnipeg? Their future goalie is Hutchinson and no one is going to take Pavelec. Reimer should just go into arbitration and take whatever 1 year contract is awarded to him. He should just work hard and challenge Bernier as best as he can, while being a good teammate. That in itself will bring his trade value up. As of right now, there is no trade market for goalies unless you want to get almost nothing in return. Injuries due happen in preseason and regular season, so Reimer will just have to be patient.

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The fact you use wins to judge who did better is laughable
Did I? Where did I say Gustavsson > Reimer? I stated Gustavsson is a backup (my point about wins was that Detroit should be pretty alright with his work last year), and so is Reimer (whos play last year for a goalie who's competing for a starter position was very lackluster).

The fact that you try to put words in others mouths is the laughable part.

Would I take Reimer as my backup over Gustavsson if Reimer was a mil more expensive than Gustavsson? No, no I would not. Do I think Gustavsson is better? No, I do not. But no team in the league will/should want to have Reimer as their starter. A club or two might however be willing to settle for him, as he won't be very expensive.


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Did I? Where did I say Gustavsson > Reimer? I stated Gustavsson is a backup (my point about wins was that Detroit should be pretty alright with his work last year), and so is Reimer (whos play last year for a goalie who's competing for a starter position was very lackluster).

The fact that you try to put words in others mouths is the laughable part.

Would I take Reimer as my backup over Gustavsson if Reimer was a mil more expensive than Gustavsson? No, no I would not. Do I think Gustavsson is better? No, I do not. But no team in the league will/should want to have Reimer as their starter. A club or two might however be willing to settle for him, as he won't be very expensive.
But Reimer has proven he can be a starter. Gustavsson hasn't. Goalies are streaky in general year to year. Look at Varlamov. What about Price? Happens to almost all goalies..


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