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Positional Swap: Baertschi for B. Bennett

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07-09-2014, 12:41 PM
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Can we not trade Sven? Like, for 5 minutes.

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07-09-2014, 12:47 PM
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I love Baertschi and I'm not even a Flames fan
I don't know about a straight up trade for Bennett
I doubt the pens would trade Maatta or Pouliot
I can see maybe Harrington and a 2nd or so, but flipping prospects always seems silly

I don't see the Flames trading Sven

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07-09-2014, 12:50 PM
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Can we not trade Sven? Like, for 5 minutes.
I only offer him up for players that we need.

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I only offer him up for players that we need.
What 'need' though?

Flames are about to start year 2 of 'the rebuild'. LOTS can happen between now and then. Remember when RW was by far the deepest position? Now it is arguably the weakest. Remember when the Flames had a possible 3 defencemen that were expected to make Team Canada? Look how quickly that disappeared as well.

You let the kids you draft develop and see where you are at as you are coming out of the rebuild. For all you know, the best available draft pick in the next 2 drafts will be RW'ers. Suddenly you will have to either draft a worse player to make sure you are 'balanced', or trade a RW'er because one of Gaudreau or Klimchuk didn't work out and need a LW'er again.

Trades to balance out the team will come when the rebuild is nearing completion. Up until that point, it is anyone's guess where the area of weakness is.

There are also some vets that are yet to be traded in the next couple of years as well, and I bet they get moved for prospects and/or picks. You just don't need to balance out the prospect pool this very moment. A LOT can change, and rather quickly at that!

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07-09-2014, 01:39 PM
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Makes no sense to me. F for F gets nothing done. We haven't seen enough of Beau yet to know.
Beau has performed well - when healthy. As for Baertschi, the talent is clearly there, and that is something the Pens are lacking on wing. I would be more open to trading a Dman for him. In respect to Flames fans though, I could understand why they would want to hold onto him.

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07-09-2014, 01:56 PM
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What 'need' though?

Flames are about to start year 2 of 'the rebuild'. LOTS can happen between now and then. Remember when RW was by far the deepest position? Now it is arguably the weakest. Remember when the Flames had a possible 3 defencemen that were expected to make Team Canada? Look how quickly that disappeared as well.

You let the kids you draft develop and see where you are at as you are coming out of the rebuild. For all you know, the best available draft pick in the next 2 drafts will be RW'ers. Suddenly you will have to either draft a worse player to make sure you are 'balanced', or trade a RW'er because one of Gaudreau or Klimchuk didn't work out and need a LW'er again.

Trades to balance out the team will come when the rebuild is nearing completion. Up until that point, it is anyone's guess where the area of weakness is.

There are also some vets that are yet to be traded in the next couple of years as well, and I bet they get moved for prospects and/or picks. You just don't need to balance out the prospect pool this very moment. A LOT can change, and rather quickly at that!
Especially considering their value will likely be higher when that time comes. The timing just isn't right to trade a guy like Baertschi.

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Can we not trade Sven? Like, for 5 minutes.
Some of these guys have real hard-ons to trade the guy. Going back a year and a half ago, he was considered our best prospect by a mile; the great thing is... he's still as good of a prospect, but he's probably realistically 4th on the forward depth chart for prospects/young NHLers
(Monahan, Bennett, Gaudreau, in no particular order).

Hold onto the guy; his development is looking eerily like Gustav Nyquists development, and we know how that went (you jump back a year ago and Red Wings fans were trying to move him like crazy for their weakness; D). He should make this team out of camp, or be the first recall from Abby this year. Absolutely no reason to toss the guy aside.

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What 'need' though?

Flames are about to start year 2 of 'the rebuild'. LOTS can happen between now and then. Remember when RW was by far the deepest position? Now it is arguably the weakest. Remember when the Flames had a possible 3 defencemen that were expected to make Team Canada? Look how quickly that disappeared as well.

You let the kids you draft develop and see where you are at as you are coming out of the rebuild. For all you know, the best available draft pick in the next 2 drafts will be RW'ers. Suddenly you will have to either draft a worse player to make sure you are 'balanced', or trade a RW'er because one of Gaudreau or Klimchuk didn't work out and need a LW'er again.

Trades to balance out the team will come when the rebuild is nearing completion. Up until that point, it is anyone's guess where the area of weakness is.

There are also some vets that are yet to be traded in the next couple of years as well, and I bet they get moved for prospects and/or picks. You just don't need to balance out the prospect pool this very moment. A LOT can change, and rather quickly at that!
This is a great post.

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07-09-2014, 03:18 PM
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This is a great post.
I agree, I actually had second thoughts when he posted that.

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Demers for Baertschi? A lot of you are underrating Baertschi. Flames would need a top RW or defenseman back in return.
I don't think SJ would do that, would they?

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I liked what I saw from Bennett when he was healthy. He's basically slated into our top 6 next year, no reason to trade him for a guy about to make the jump from the AHL. Lateral move for us at best and Calgary shouldn't be giving up on a talent like Sven yet.

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07-09-2014, 06:31 PM
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Would pass on Baertschi. Not that BB has done a ton, but at least he's looked pretty good in the few chances he had at the NHL level. IF we could move a mid level D prospect (Dumo/Harrington) then sure (and I understand if Calgary isn't interested in that). But I'd rather just stick with BB.

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07-09-2014, 06:57 PM
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I don't think SJ would do that, would they?
Yeah imo Demers is worth more

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Ya theres zero reason to trade Sven. A top 50 prospect. 0.5 ppg in the nhl so far and is still very young. Could still turn out to be the best of our prospect group. Just has to get his head straight. The talent is there.

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