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07-09-2014, 03:10 PM
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I think form what little info came out it is reasonable to think 6 @ 6.25m would have sealed his re-signing. That is less than 500k
You can't make that assumption. We know he told teams he wasn't taking anything less than 6.6. Maybe he would have from the Avs but you can't assume. We know he got over 1m more. The Avs still offered more guaranteed too.

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That's the key though or else it won't work.

I don't put much stock in the east coast writers writing the Avs off. The a Iginla criticism is ridiculous. If he went to an east coast or a cup run team they'd be talking about how he was the missing piece. I've read several columns from Boston with great tears over losing Iginla. Hardly the washed up mistake they claim he is now.

Many people wanted PA to go for a 7th round pick and the 4 million in cap space next year might be worth it's weight in gold. After Sarich and Benoit didn't sink the team last year I'm not worried about marginal signings. The only way to "win" free agency from a reporter standpoint is to land the big overpaid vets.
A lot of the national writers seem to be pissy recently since the East sucks and is bleeding talent.

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Unless it's not there for people on their mobile devices, I'm not seeing a "Comments" section...probably because Justin Bourne knows that a majority of them would be critical and asking for better reasoning for his disposition.

What a bad article from the standpoint that he's not constructing an actual argument to back up his drivel...he also pretty much acknowledges that he doesn't think much of the Avalanche given how they played last year and proved a lot of people wrong (when it comes to last season)

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Sensationalizing the Avs off season as a train wreck and being extremely negative about every single move with zero positive commentary wreaks of bias.

I don't know that writer, but that article has jealous Oilers fan written all over it.

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07-09-2014, 03:46 PM
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You can't make that assumption. We know he told teams he wasn't taking anything less than 6.6. Maybe he would have from the Avs but you can't assume. We know he got over 1m more. The Avs still offered more guaranteed too.
Ok, I'll no longer make assumptions that a "Hometown Discount" was being bantered about and that if minimum to other teams was 6.6m the discount wouldn't bring it down around that 6.25-6.5 mark.

I think we should continue to work assumption free on the board as a whole. Will make for less disagreement overall.

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Sensationalizing the Avs off season as a train wreck and being extremely negative about every single move with zero positive commentary wreaks of bias.

I don't know that writer, but that article has jealous Oilers fan written all over it.
he usually has pretty solid stuff.

he's isles fan.

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The guy thinks Redmond and Iginla are downgrades. He's nuts.

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Panthers GM Tallon is trying to trade some or organizations' "assets" for a goal scorer. #flapanthers

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Panthers GM Tallon is trying to trade some or organizations' "assets" for a goal scorer. #flapanthers
Finally the long awaited Kulikov to Avs trade? Briere has scored a few goals

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A lot of the national writers seem to be pissy recently since the East sucks and is bleeding talent.
Bingo

Yeah the Islanders had a great offseason, signing two guys to get to the cap floor. Well done. Enjoy watching Buffalo take a franchise player with your first round pick next year.

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McGinn, Elliot, Wilson & a 3rd for Kulikov & Shore. (HF26)

Lets just do that, sign Barrie & O'Reilly, and call it an off-season.

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McGinn, Elliot, Wilson & a 3rd for Kulikov & Shore. (HF26)

Lets just do that, sign Barrie & O'Reilly, and call it an off-season.
A McGinn/Kulikov swap would've been nice earlier in the offseason. We wouldn't need to acquire Stuart and could use whatever the difference in salary between McGinn, Stuart, and Kulikov is to replace McGinn on the third line.

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A McGinn/Kulikov swap would've been nice earlier in the offseason. We wouldn't need to acquire Stuart and could use whatever the difference in salary between McGinn, Stuart, and Kulikov is to replace McGinn on the third line.
Would it be foul to move Stuart immediately lol? I wouldn't mind moving Hejda either but one of them has to go if we would ever go after Kulikov again.

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Bingo

Yeah the Islanders had a great offseason, signing two guys to get to the cap floor. Well done. Enjoy watching Buffalo take a franchise player with your first round pick next year.
you forgot their biggest acquisition though. an actual goalie.

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Would it be foul to move Stuart immediately lol? I wouldn't mind moving Hejda either but one of them has to go if we would ever go after Kulikov again.
You don't have to...

Kulikov- EJ
Hejda - Barrie
Stuart - Holden
Noreau - Redmond

Wilson & Elliot to Florida, Guenin to LE.

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Bingo

Yeah the Islanders had a great offseason, signing two guys to get to the cap floor. Well done. Enjoy watching Buffalo take a franchise player with your first round pick next year.
Islanders got a pretty decent goalie and even though they overpaid Grabovski and Kulemin, they still make the team better. I like the moves they made.

Sabres giving Meszaros $4M is a way to get to the floor. The Islanders signings are a lot more than that.

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07-09-2014, 04:36 PM
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True, but I wouldn't exactly say fans of that franchise have room to talk when their GM had to beg people to come to their team and still failed. Oh wait, just like they offered Iginla a 4 year deal and he turned it down. I know we are talking about a columnist here and not just a "fan", but the east coast bias still holds up here.

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True, but I wouldn't exactly say fans of that franchise have room to talk when their GM had to beg people to come to their team and still failed. Oh wait, just like they offered Iginla a 4 year deal and he turned it down. I know we are talking about a columnist here and not just a "fan", but the east coast bias still holds up here.
i highly doubt it's bias in this case. definitely not east cost bias.

isn't he allowed to express his opinion if his own favorite team sucks? so what? i've never gotten that thinking.

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Dany Heatley is a Duck!

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$1mil for 1 yr. Heatley signs with Ducks.

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Dany Heatley is a Duck!

He's a witch, burn him!

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I don't think there's any kind of bias but the article was poorly written and sensationalizing.

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