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07-10-2014, 02:26 AM
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Fedorov/Gretzky 96 - Clear clip



Ok, after running across this in my random YouTube trails of clip watching:

1. Hopefully people can realize hpw awesome Sergei Federov was as a defensive forward.

2. Why is this clip so crystal clear like it's HD from 15 years ago, while most **** I watch from the 90s is grainy garbage? I get the ESPN production value but I've never seen anything like it - ESPN or not.

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For instance, this game a year later is a classic to me, I remember it like it was yesterday but it's like watching a game with rabbit ears.

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2. Why is this clip so crystal clear like it's HD from 15 years ago, while most **** I watch from the 90s is grainy garbage? I get the ESPN production value but I've never seen anything like it - ESPN or not.
It was released in a DVD set.

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For instance, this game a year later is a classic to me, I remember it like it was yesterday but it's like watching a game with rabbit ears.
That was a game someone recorded on to VHS, then recorded to another VHS which results in a loss of quality, to another VHS and so on and so forth. That's how people used to trade games so if you had the original master of the game, it was more valuable because each subsequent copy degraded the quality.

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So a 26-year-old who is considered arguably the fastest skater in the NHL beat a 35-year-old in a race when they're both 60 minutes deep into a game? Should we be surprised?


It's on the Red Wings: Celebration of Champions DVD. I highly recommend it.

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So a 26-year-old who is considered arguably the fastest skater in the NHL beat a 35-year-old in a race when they're both 60 minutes deep into a game? Should we be surprised?
Pretty much this.. Besides that, Fedorov being a great defensive forward isn't really news.. anywhere.

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Federov was one of the greatest skaters of all time, Im actually surprised Gretzky beat Federov to the puck at age 35. There was also some hooking in there. There's nothing in this case that demonstrate Federovs actual speed. Im actually more impressed Gretzky outraced him to the puck !

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Man those Blues jerseys are hideous. The red looks so out of place.

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Yeah...

Gretz was never a speed demon to begin with, much less nearing the end. Fedorov was just an awesome player, though.

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And Fedorov got away with a blatant hook to (3 separate hooks really) the hands. Its the only reason Gretzky lost control of the puck.

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And Fedorov got away with a blatant hook to (3 separate hooks really) the hands. Its the only reason Gretzky lost control of the puck.
That's actually one of my favorite things about watching hockey games from before the 04-05 lockout; the amount of hooks, holds, and interference players were able to get away with compared to games today. It brings out a bit of nostalgia from my younger days.

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And Fedorov got away with a blatant hook to (3 separate hooks really) the hands. Its the only reason Gretzky lost control of the puck.
Yeah I guess really you could say Gretzky technically wins the "race" for the loose puck but when he tries to keep the puck out of Feds reach he gets hit on the hands/shaft of the stick, loses control, and Sergei scoops it.

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This clip + the Devellano soundbyte = the basis for the overrating of Sergei Fedorov

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And Fedorov got away with a blatant hook to (3 separate hooks really) the hands. Its the only reason Gretzky lost control of the puck.
He never actually hook Gretzky...

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He never actually hook Gretzky...
Look at 19-20 or 39-40ish seconds and try again.

Couple little hooks to the gloves/stick before catching up and then a pokecheck/hook/stick lift/something at the end.. very active stick by Feds there.

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Gretzky wasn't even the fastest player on the Oilers in his prime. I'd put him behind Coffey, Anderson and maybe Messier. The thing is that he looked fast because he anticipated where the puck was going and was at least two steps ahead of the opposition. His thinking was faster than his feat...on offense. For a 35 year old with a banged up back and half a million miles on his odometer, I'd say he gave young Fedorov a good run.

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Look at 19-20 or 39-40ish seconds and try again.

Couple little hooks to the gloves/stick before catching up and then a pokecheck/hook/stick lift/something at the end.. very active stick by Feds there.
Yea, those a very tiny hooks in that case.

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Yea, those a very tiny hooks in that case.
Just stop

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wow to the Gretz-lovers. He had a step and a half to two steps at the blue line, and got caught and stripped just inside the other blueline.

Also, you should be allowed to hook as much as Feds did there.


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if that was 35 year old selanne, fedorov wouldn't even have fit in the same picture.

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Funny how this turned into the Gretzky apologist thread.

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We all know Fedorov could do this but I wish he did it more times. He never gave it 100% in the regular season. Maybe this was why he was so good in the postseason.

As for Gretzky in this clip, I wouldn't put a lot of stock into it. Bobby Orr had an old Henri Richard unexpectedly blow by him in 1971 in that classic Game 2 of the Bruins/Habs series. It makes Orr look flat footed. Was Orr slower than Richard at this time? No. He was just caught at the wrong time. It happens to the best of them. Gretzky normally would have been outskated by Fedorov anyway, but I was just using an example that any player can look bad on one single play.

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Federov was one of the greatest skaters of all time, Im actually surprised Gretzky beat Federov to the puck at age 35. There was also some hooking in there. There's nothing in this case that demonstrate Federovs actual speed. Im actually more impressed Gretzky outraced him to the puck !
In his prime Fedorov was one of the greater PLAYERS ever PERIOD!

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