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07-13-2014, 10:51 AM
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Worst Trade Deadline Deals

When discussing Kenny Jönsson in the ATD I remembered the '96 trade deadline. The Leafs did some blockbusters that basically ruined that franchise. Have any team made worse deals than they did at the deadline?

For those that dont remember

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Wendel Clark
Mathieu Schneider
D.J. Smith
Don Beaupre
Kirk Muller

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Damian Rhodes
Kenny Jönsson
1st rounder (Roberto Luongo)
Ken Belanger
Sean Haggerty
Darby Hendrickson

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^^^ Ya, thats a corker Hobnobs. Thing is with the Leafs Trade Deadline or not, some just mind numbing bumble headed moves that in the pantheon of trades, bad deals, hard pushed to find a more abysmal record....

Rick Kehoe to Pittsburgh for Blaine Stoughton
Randy Carlyle & George Ferguson also to Pittsburgh for Dave Burrows

Bernie Parent back to Philadelphia for essentially 2 useless late Draft Picks....

Darryl Sittler to Philly for Rich Costello, a 2nd Round Pick (Peter Ihnacak) & Future Considerations (Ken Strong).... then theres

Dougie Jarvis to Montreal for Greg Hubick
and of course later Russ Courtnall for John Kordic...

1st Round Draft Pick Scott Niedermayer to New Jersey for Tom Kurvers.....

Endless really. Pretty much from about 1964 to present day.

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Atlanta had a couple when they were ramping up for their first (and only) playoff berth.

1) 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and Glen Metropolit for a couple months of Keith Tkachuk
2) Braydon Coburn for a couple months of Alexei Zhitnik

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Atlanta had a couple when they were ramping up for their first (and only) playoff berth.

1) 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and Glen Metropolit for a couple months of Keith Tkachuk
2) Braydon Coburn for a couple months of Alexei Zhitnik
That is a bad deadline for sure! How about the rangers in '96?

To

Jari Kurri
Marty McSorely
Shane Churla
Kay Whitmore
Bill Berg
Sergio Momesso

To

Mattias Norström
Ian Laperierre
Nathan Lafayette
Ray Ferraro
4th rounder
Wayne Presley
Bill Berg
Joey Kocur

Maybe not as bad as leafs but still a terrible deadline imo

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I always thought it was terribly shortsighted of the Rangers to deal Weight (for Tikannen) and Amonte (for Matteau and Noonan) at the '94 deadline

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I always thought it was terribly shortsighted of the Rangers to deal Weight (for Tikannen) and Amonte (for Matteau and Noonan) at the '94 deadline
Weight actually got dealt the year before, but yeah those trades bug me as a Rangers fan. They've made a habit giving up homegrown guys who'd later develop into stars over their history: Weight; Amonte; Norstrom; Marc Savard; Sergei Zubov (already established but still young); Dave Gagner, Rick Middleton; Syl Apps, Jr. It helps explain why the team hasn't really had a big time, homegrown, star forward since the GAG-line days. That and poor drafting.


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^^^ Ya, thats a corker Hobnobs. Thing is with the Leafs Trade Deadline or not, some just mind numbing bumble headed moves that in the pantheon of trades, bad deals, hard pushed to find a more abysmal record....

Rick Kehoe to Pittsburgh for Blaine Stoughton
Randy Carlyle & George Ferguson also to Pittsburgh for Dave Burrows

Bernie Parent back to Philadelphia for essentially 2 useless late Draft Picks....

Darryl Sittler to Philly for Rich Costello, a 2nd Round Pick (Peter Ihnacak) & Future Considerations (Ken Strong).... then theres

Dougie Jarvis to Montreal for Greg Hubick
and of course later Russ Courtnall for John Kordic...

1st Round Draft Pick Scott Niedermayer to New Jersey for Tom Kurvers.....

Endless really. Pretty much from about 1964 to present day.
I think there was a first rounder in Kehoe trade.

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To :
Maxime Ouellet
2002 first round pick (#26-Martin Vagner)
2002 second round pick (#59-Maxime Daigneault)
2002 third round pick (#92-Derek Krestanovich)

Oates has two assists in an embarrassing first round loss. Caps use the1st to trade up for Semin.

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2002 first round pick (#26-Martin Vagner)
2002 second round pick (#59-Maxime Daigneault)
2002 third round pick (#92-Derek Krestanovich)

Oates has two assists in an embarrassing first round loss. Caps use the1st to trade up for Semin.
I don't think that is what Hobnobs meant. Think it's more about deadline deals that in one way or another killed a franchise.

Rangers and Leafs deadline deals in '96 marked the beginning of a downward spiral for both franchises while Flyers still kept making the playoffs after the Oates deal.

There were another franchise that did an odd move in '96. The hawks traded Poulin, Ulanov and 2nd for Enrico Ciccone. Not a huge trade but is significantly weakend that Hawks team.

Then we have the Habs in '95 trading away their overrated stars like Muller and Schneider but also their underrated players Desjardins and LeClair for Malakhov, Turgeon and Recchi. Although the death of that franchise came the day they fired Demers/Savard and replaced them with two hacks.

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[QUOTE=jkrx;88056705]There were another franchise that did an odd move in '96. The hawks traded Poulin, Ulanov and 2nd for Enrico Ciccone. Not a huge trade but is significantly weakend that Hawks team.[QUOTE]

I have to disagree with ya there. Poulin and Ulanov accomplished nothing in Chicago. Not saying Ciccone was a huge upgrade, but still.

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[QUOTE=Murphy 17;88059051][QUOTE=jkrx;88056705]There were another franchise that did an odd move in '96. The hawks traded Poulin, Ulanov and 2nd for Enrico Ciccone. Not a huge trade but is significantly weakend that Hawks team.
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I have to disagree with ya there. Poulin and Ulanov accomplished nothing in Chicago. Not saying Ciccone was a huge upgrade, but still.
Poulin might not have been the offensive wonder that Chicago hoped for but he did provide decent offense while playing a good two-way game. Much more useful in a playoff series than a goon. Not to mention Ulanov who is underrated and a good stay at home defenseman and also miles ahead of Ciccone in terms of skill. There simply isn't any reasoning behind trading them for Ciccone.

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That is a bad deadline for sure! How about the rangers in '96?

To

Jari Kurri
Marty McSorely
Shane Churla
Kay Whitmore
Bill Berg
Sergio Momesso

To

Mattias Norström
Ian Laperierre
Nathan Lafayette
Ray Ferraro
4th rounder
Wayne Presley
Bill Berg
Joey Kocur

Maybe not as bad as leafs but still a terrible deadline imo
That Norstrom/Laperriere for Kurri/McSorely/Churla deal is one of the most under-rated terrible deals in NHL history.

It took another decade before the Rangers would develop another quality defensive defender of Norstrom's caliber and their complete lack of any sort of substance on the blueline was probably the biggest reason they missed the playoffs 7 years straight almost immediately following this trade - was basically an aging, overplayed Brian Leetch and then a bunch of near-waiver-level junk. Norstrom would have been such a difference-maker for that franchise.

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That Norstrom/Laperriere for Kurri/McSorely/Churla deal is one of the most under-rated terrible deals in NHL history.

It took another decade before the Rangers would develop another quality defensive defender of Norstrom's caliber and their complete lack of any sort of substance on the blueline was probably the biggest reason they missed the playoffs 7 years straight almost immediately following this trade - was basically an aging, overplayed Brian Leetch and then a bunch of near-waiver-level junk. Norstrom would have been such a difference-maker for that franchise.
Not to mention

Ian Laperrierre>Sean Avery

Wayne Presley was the other half of one of the most effective PK-duos in the NHL (Sundström was the other half)

Ray Ferraro continued to be an effective center for another 5+ years I think.

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2002 first round pick (#26-Martin Vagner)
2002 second round pick (#59-Maxime Daigneault)
2002 third round pick (#92-Derek Krestanovich)

Oates has two assists in an embarrassing first round loss. Caps use the1st to trade up for Semin.
I don't blame Bobby Clarke for making that trade. Roenick and Primeau got hurt on the eve of the trade deadline. Philly was a legitimate contender in the East and suddenly weren't sure if they lost their top two centers for a prolonged amount of time.

Roenick and Primeau did come back which relegated Oates to a lesser role. And then there was a hidden asset in those pre-2005 trades in that Philadelphia got the 85th pick in 2003 as compensation for losing Oates as a free agent to Anaheim.

Despite dealing those picks, Philadelphia also walked out of the 2002 Draft with Joni Pitkanen at #4. The Oates trade didn't work out, but it didn't set Philadelphia back all that much.

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