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TO has Lupul+Gardiner+Franson+Reimer. Does anyone want them?

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07-14-2014, 10:40 AM
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Moen, B prospect and a 2nd for Lupul
Yes please from the Habs AKA no thanks from the Leafs

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07-14-2014, 10:43 AM
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Gardiner has not fallen off. At the end of last year, he was one of the very few bright spots. He doesn't belong in this discussion and he is not going anywhere except for a massive overpayment.
Isn't that how the HF Boards always work?

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07-14-2014, 10:50 AM
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I pitched this:

To Tor
Cam Ward (No retention)
Victor Rask
2015 Conditional 1st (1st in 2016 if he plays 50 games in 2015, 2015 2nd if he does not)

To Car
Franson
Reimer
Conditional 2016 2nd (Only transfers if Leafs obtain 2015 1st)

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07-14-2014, 10:53 AM
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lol no they wouldn't... they could probably pick up a late first for Lupul with a bit of salary retained
Well...you guys do love to retain salary.

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07-14-2014, 11:13 AM
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NJD will take Lupul for a 2nd and a 4th if you retain 1-1.5M

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07-14-2014, 11:32 AM
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Lupul would fill out the Pens top 6 on Malkins line IMO but not for his cap hit

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07-14-2014, 11:44 AM
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Leafs are not trading Nylander. This trade proposal is extremely lop-sided for Winnipeg.

Kane didn't even score 20 goals last year. Has character issues. Isn't good defensively. There is so many reasons why the Leafs don't want Kane. Especially not for a package that includes their recently drafted top 10 pick. I wouldn't actually want to trade Gardiner in a package for Kane either.

Lupul + Reimer/Franson + 2nd/Franson would be really the only thing I would want to trade for Kane, and I know WPG doesn't do that trade either.
- Winnipeg doesn't need another goalie. We have goalie depth and we all believe Hutchinson is going to be our backup and motivate Pavelec to keep his starter position.

- We also don't need another RHD. We need a LHD.

- Also the jets downgrade from Evander Kane (22 years old) to Joffrey Lupul (30 years old who has never been a 30 goal scorer in the NHL)

This makes no sense, I'm tired of leafs fans proposing this.

Leave Winnipeg out of this please

Sincerely: Annoyed Jets fan

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07-14-2014, 11:46 AM
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I would take Franson...but you have to take VL.
Lupul was a Flyer before and did nothing here.

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The reason why Gardiner is included is a lot of Leaf fans look to trade for top prospects, like Kane. In order to get talent the Leafs will have to give up talent. The thought that Quantity = Quality is just dumb.

I did forget to include Kadri in the list.

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Give you Beauchemin for Lupul and Gardiner

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A year ago today Leafs fans were acting like these guys were untouchable and elite players.

Now they can be had for scraps

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07-14-2014, 12:02 PM
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I don't see why he [Gardiner] is available, much less being shopped by Leafs fans the way he has been.
It's a complete and utter mystery to me, too. Mindbogling. To me his importance to the Leafs should be glaringly obvious to anyone that even remotely bothered to pay attention last season.

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07-14-2014, 12:09 PM
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A year ago today Leafs fans were acting like these guys were untouchable and elite players.

Now they can be had for scraps
Almost as funny as Kesler getting a good return, Luongo being amazing, Schneider being Vancouver's goalie of the future, and the Sedins being top 10 players in the NHL. All a year ago. Good times, good times.

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I pitched this:

To Tor
Cam Ward (No retention)
Victor Rask
2015 Conditional 1st (1st in 2016 if he plays 50 games in 2015, 2015 2nd if he does not)

To Car
Franson
Reimer
Conditional 2016 2nd (Only transfers if Leafs obtain 2015 1st)
There is no chance that the Leafs take on Ward at full salary to be a backup without sending Clarkson the other way.

I prefer Reimer as our backup, infinitely more so when you consider his signing cost vs Ward.

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07-14-2014, 12:11 PM
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Bryan Allen
3rd round draft pick

for

Lupul

Leafs:
- clear considerable salary for next few years off this deal
- pickup a draft pick
- pickup a bottom-pairing veteran, tough, stay-at-home D who is off the books next season

Ducks:
- get a guy they are familiar with who I think still owns a house in OC?
- allows them the opportunity to not rush too many young forwards
- could do great in Boudreau's system playing with Kesler

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A year ago today Leafs fans were acting like these guys were untouchable and elite players.

Now they can be had for scraps
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Almost as funny as Kesler getting a good return, Luongo being amazing, Schneider being Vancouver's goalie of the future, and the Sedins being top 10 players in the NHL. All a year ago. Good times, good times.


Too true... A lot can change in a year around these parts.

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07-14-2014, 12:15 PM
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The reason why Gardiner is included is a lot of Leaf fans look to trade for top prospects, like Kane. In order to get talent the Leafs will have to give up talent. The thought that Quantity = Quality is just dumb.

I did forget to include Kadri in the list.
Lol Kane is a top prospect?

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07-14-2014, 12:17 PM
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The reason why Gardiner is included is a lot of Leaf fans look to trade for top prospects, like Kane. In order to get talent the Leafs will have to give up talent. The thought that Quantity = Quality is just dumb.

I did forget to include Kadri in the list.
Kadri and Kane are not top prospects...decent players though.

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Almost as funny as Kesler getting a good return, Luongo being amazing, Schneider being Vancouver's goalie of the future, and the Sedins being top 10 players in the NHL. All a year ago. Good times, good times.
Not even close to being as funny as the:
Lupul, franson and Reimer for Kane you proposed earlier

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07-14-2014, 12:39 PM
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Too true... A lot can change in a year around these parts.
Very true

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Not even close to being as funny as the:
Lupul, franson and Reimer for Kane you proposed earlier
Is there a reason you didn't mention where I also wrote that WPG doesn't make that trade?

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There is no chance that the Leafs take on Ward at full salary to be a backup without sending Clarkson the other way.

I prefer Reimer as our backup, infinitely more so when you consider his signing cost vs Ward.
Meh, the values of the contract balance out this year pretty much. Couple that with the fact we will likely be in for a nice bump in the cap I wouldn't be too worried about future implications. I also don't foresee the Leafs using all their capspace this year, so we might as well maximize it by maybe taking on a crap deal for assets rather than have it sit there doing nothing.

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Very true



Is there a reason you didn't mention where I also wrote that WPG doesn't make that trade?
Because what you want to happen isn't even realistic.

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If we hadn't picked up Komarov, I might have been curious depending on which B prospect that is. However, I'd prefer it if we didn't trade Lupul within the division to burn us 5 times a year
Moen might burn us back...

If I said I typed that without laughing, would anyone believe me ?

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Moen might burn us back...

If I said I typed that without laughing, would anyone believe me ?
nope, not at all

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Because what you want to happen isn't even realistic.
Take off your homer glasses bud. If you think that Kane, Evander is going to get you Gardiner and Nylander then you're living in a fantasy world

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