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09-13-2005, 03:50 PM
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"Jagr virtually guaranteed playoff berth"

Pretty strong words...but then again what do you expect a pro athlete to say before the season even starts - "I don't think we have a shot in the world".


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ho...p-295170c.html

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Ok Jagr, lets see it.

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if it's the jagr of old, i don't think it's impossible. for example, the '99 penguins had no business making the playoffs let alone ousting the devils in the first round. he did it that year playing with kip miller and jan hrdina. he can carry a team if he's on.

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Well Jags, chip in our 50 goals and we'll see.

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i think jagr enjoyed his russian vodka last season and still has a few bottles left over...

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Be honest with you, if he is serious and focused the team actually does stand a chance.

If no other reason that i think people have forgotten just how dominating Jagr is when he is in the zone and plugged in.

With the rule changes and if Jagr is motivated, Jagr is a potential 50 goal 100 point player (at least). And if he is that player any team he is on at least has a shot.

Now whether or not he actually regains that form is an unknown.

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if it's the jagr of old, i don't think it's impossible. for example, the '99 penguins had no business making the playoffs let alone ousting the devils in the first round. he did it that year playing with kip miller and jan hrdina. he can carry a team if he's on.
I hope he's not just whistling Dixie... I have him in my pool and it would be huge if he can regain 90-100pt form. The potential top line of Straka-Nylander-Jagr could be very dangerous, though, especially on the PP. The question is, who else will be making the defense think twice when the Rangers are in town?

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I hope he's not just whistling Dixie... I have him in my pool and it would be huge if he can regain 90-100pt form. The potential top line of Straka-Nylander-Jagr could be very dangerous, though, especially on the PP. The question is, who else will be making the defense think twice when the Rangers are in town?
A testament to his skill is that if healthy, even a phoned in Jagr is still a point per game 80 point player.

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With the rule changes and if Jagr is motivated, Jagr is a potential 50 goal 100 point player (at least). And if he is that player any team he is on at least has a shot.
Making him a perfect person that can (hopefully) fetch a good bounty at the deadline.

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Playoffs in a rebuild year would be great after none in so many years, but I think like was said, it's the vodka talking

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I think having alot of players on 1 year contracts might be good for the rangers. Everybody will be hungry for that next contract so will play there hearts out. I definantly see the rangers challenging for a playoff spot.

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Making him a perfect person that can (hopefully) fetch a good bounty at the deadline.

Those days are over my friend. With Jagr's cap number being what it is I can't imagine many teams that would have the space to slot him in (without dismantling their club). Trade deadlines are not going to be nearly as much fun as they have been in the past

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Those days are over my friend. With Jagr's cap number being what it is I can't imagine many teams that would have the space to slot him in (without dismantling their club). Trade deadlines are not going to be nearly as much fun as they have been in the past

Cap number? He's making slightly more than Adrian Aucoin.

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I think Jagr is pretty much the most talented guy in the league still...unless you want to consider Lemieux. But if he played up to his full potential, Jagr would be the best player in the league easily

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Cap number? He's making slightly more than Adrian Aucoin.

Still figuring out the details of the CBA and the cap. So to clarify, if Jagr were to be traded the new team would only be on the hook for the Rangers portion of the contract? Washington will carry the cap burden (no pun intended) for as long as the contract is in effect?

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Still figuring out the details of the CBA and the cap. So to clarify, if Jagr were to be traded the new team would only be on the hook for the Rangers portion of the contract? Washington will carry the cap burden (no pun intended) for as long as the contract is in effect?
Correct

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we'll get a preview through exhibition matches soon anyways... If Jagr scores over 120 points I can guarantee we're in the playoffs.

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Making him a perfect person that can (hopefully) fetch a good bounty at the deadline.
we're not trading him. I'm buying a Jagr jersey and at least have it worthwhile fo 3 years. Don't speak of trades.

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Still figuring out the details of the CBA and the cap. So to clarify, if Jagr were to be traded the new team would only be on the hook for the Rangers portion of the contract? Washington will carry the cap burden (no pun intended) for as long as the contract is in effect?
Whoa, suddenly realized why the Caps are being super stingy.

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Just for clarity: The league is not counting the amount that the Capitals are paying New York against Washington's salary cap. The money is real, but the cap hit is excused where Washington is concerned. New York (and by extension, whatever team would be trading for him) receives a cap hit only for its portion of the salary being paid out.

The Capitals are paying the Rangers a total of $10.545 million between 2005-06 and 2007-08, or $3.515 million for each of the three guaranteed years left on the deal. Those are the post-rollback figures. None of that counts against Washington's cap, though.

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we're not trading him. I'm buying a Jagr jersey and at least have it worthwhile fo 3 years. Don't speak of trades.
This is supposed to be a rebuilding team, right? Who better to trade?
Amazing, how quick the word "rebuild" is forgotten. Sorry, but it makes perfect sense to trade him at the deadline.

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I think Jagr is pretty much the most talented guy in the league still...unless you want to consider Lemieux. But if he played up to his full potential, Jagr would be the best player in the league easily

I agree with that.

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we'll get a preview through exhibition matches soon anyways... If Jagr scores over 120 points I can guarantee we're in the playoffs.
of course that might also mean that jagr is being double or triple shifted...

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This is supposed to be a rebuilding team, right? Who better to trade?
Amazing, how quick the word "rebuild" is forgotten. Sorry, but it makes perfect sense to trade him at the deadline.
who's forgetting the word "rebuild"?

if there was a good deal for jagr, I'd do it. I have no problem with that at all. But a good deal would mean a deal for a young star player in my mind. Something the rangers need. Jagr is a great player but a young star player will be around for a lot longer and be more valuable.

i'm not too optimistic about trading him though, i think his attitude might scuttle any good trade. he's been pretty vocal about only wanting to play in NY...

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who's forgetting the word "rebuild"?

if there was a good deal for jagr, I'd do it. I have no problem with that at all. But a good deal would mean a deal for a young star player in my mind. Something the rangers need. Jagr is a great player but a young star player will be around for a lot longer and be more valuable.

i'm not too optimistic about trading him though, i think his attitude might scuttle any good trade. he's been pretty vocal about only wanting to play in NY...
A good deal would be something a little better than the Leetch deal - two quality prospects and two #1 picks.

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