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07-24-2014, 10:53 AM
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I'm not trying to be all "Wahh they gave the my team projections I don't agree with"

But:

1) Hockey News is a rag...
2) ...who hates the Rangers...
3) ...and put out the worst fantasy guide in the industry
Yeah, you pretty much are

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07-24-2014, 11:33 AM
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Don't forget about injuries, sucks, but they happen often. Expectations are too high for Krieder

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07-24-2014, 03:40 PM
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Nash - 32G
St. Louis - 27G
Kreider - 25G
Stepan - 21G
Zuccarello - 20G
Brassard -20G
Hagelin - 18G
Stempniak - 15G
D. Moore - 10G
Miller - 8G
Lombardi - 8G
Glass - 5G

McDonagh - 14G
Boyle - 7G
Klein - 7G
Girardi - 6G
J. Moore - 5G
Staal - 5G

253 Total Goals

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07-25-2014, 09:06 AM
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Don't forget about injuries, sucks, but they happen often. Expectations are too high for Krieder
Yeah, these kind of predictions from both fantasy mags and internet posters are usually every player's ceiling, based on absolutely everything going right - no injuries, clicking with all linemates, no prolonged personal or team scoring slumps, being part of a scoring power play, etc.

That's why when you add up all the predictions for all the players you say 'Wow, we're going to score so many goals!' - and it almost never happens that way.

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07-25-2014, 09:10 AM
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Kreider 62 (31G 31A) - Stepan 67 (27G 40A) - Nash 78 (40G 38A)
Hagelin 40 (25G 15A) - Brassard 54 (20G 34A) - MSL 70 (30G 40A)
Stempniak 34 (19G 15A) - Lombardi 39 (14G 25A) - Zucc 60 (25G 35A)
Glass 1 (1 Empty net goal 0A) - Moore 20 (10G 10A) - Miller 25 (10G 15A)

McDonagh 55 (19G 36A) - Girardi 24 (5G 19A)
Staal 22 (4G 18A) - Boyle 40 (14 G 26A)
Moore 16 (6G 10A) - Klein 14 (3 G 11A)

Assuming they all play every game which obviously won't happen.
Swap Miller and Lombardi

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07-25-2014, 09:45 AM
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Yeah, these kind of predictions from both fantasy mags and internet posters are usually every player's ceiling, based on absolutely everything going right - no injuries, clicking with all linemates, no prolonged personal or team scoring slumps, being part of a scoring power play, etc.

That's why when you add up all the predictions for all the players you say 'Wow, we're going to score so many goals!' - and it almost never happens that way.

Quoted for truth.

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07-26-2014, 12:26 PM
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Can't forget last year stepan didn't really get going until the mid way point. Nash was hurt. Kreider didn't get going until about two weeks into the lineup and MSL was on another team up until the deadline. So I expect:
Stepan 70Pts
Nash 35Gs
MSL 30G/40A
Kreider 25/25

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07-28-2014, 02:18 AM
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Kreider - (49) 24 G 25 A
Stepan - (71) 24 G 47 A
Nash - (53) 27 G 26 A
Zuccarello - (55) 20 G 35 A
Brassard - (52) 21 G 31 A
Stempniak - (29) 12 G 17 A
Hagelin - (45) 19 G 26 A
MSL - (64) 26 G 38 A
Miller - (32) 12 G 20 A
D. Moore (17) 7 G 10 A
Lombardi (14) 6 G 8 A
Lindberg (20) 7 G 13 A
*Glass (5) 1 G 4 A
*Fast (8) 2 G 6 A


McDonagh (54) 14 G 40 A
Girardi (22) 5 G 17 A
Staal (19) 3 G 16 A
Boyle (33) 9 G 24 A
J. Moore (15) 4 G 11 A
Klein (12) 2 G 10 A
*Allen (6) 1 G 5 A
*Kostka (4) 1 G 3 A

Lundqvist 2.20 .921 5 SO
Talbot 2.41 .911 2 SO

247 goals, knock off 20 for injury and it's a realistic 227


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07-28-2014, 02:42 AM
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As a team I think we will defeintely score more than we did last year, considering we dont need 2.5 months to adjust to the system our 5 on 5 play will be way better in the beginning of the season. I can see somewhere around 230 goals for the team.

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07-28-2014, 01:09 PM
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The Hockey News has released their Fantasy “Pool Guide” for the 2014-15 with projections for the Rangers defense:

Dan Boyle: 46 points (12 goals, 34 assists)Ryan McDonagh: 40 points (10 goals, 30 assists)Dan Girardi: 22 pointsMarc Staal: 19 pointsMichael Kostka: 16 pointsJohn Moore: 13 pointsKevin Klein 11 points

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Nash: 30-22-52
St. Louis: - 21-40-61
Kreider: 23-25-48
Stepan: 15-44-59
Zuccarello: 22-44-66
Brassard: 16-32-48
Hagelin: 17-23-40
Stempniak: 16-21-37
D. Moore: 6-10-16
Miller: 8-16-24
Lombardi: 13-15-27
Glass: 1-4-5

McDonagh: 19-32-51
Boyle: 6-30-36
Klein: 8-10-18
Girardi: 4-16-20
J. Moore: 3-17-20
Staal: 4-14-18

Hank: 0-4-4 (he always seems to rack up a few assists )

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07-29-2014, 10:54 AM
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Yeah, you pretty much are
No, I'm not. I already said I wouldn't trust them if they said the Rangers were going to score 1000 goals this season. Hockey news fantasy mag is always the worst out there.

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07-29-2014, 11:41 AM
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The Hockey News has released their Fantasy “Pool Guide” for the 2014-15 with projections for the Rangers defense:

Dan Boyle: 46 points (12 goals, 34 assists)Ryan McDonagh: 40 points (10 goals, 30 assists)Dan Girardi: 22 pointsMarc Staal: 19 pointsMichael Kostka: 16 pointsJohn Moore: 13 pointsKevin Klein 11 points
No way McDonagh has only 40 points. I'll take the over.

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07-29-2014, 01:21 PM
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No way McDonagh has only 40 points. I'll take the over.
Yeah I believe the rest except mac to. I'm thinking 50-55 for him

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07-29-2014, 04:40 PM
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Wow, some high predictions for Nash in here - 30 goals, 35 goals, 40 goals - I hope you guys are right. Getting the feeling if he's only good for something like 23-25 goals we could be in trouble this season.

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07-30-2014, 06:06 PM
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Wow, some high predictions for Nash in here - 30 goals, 35 goals, 40 goals - I hope you guys are right. Getting the feeling if he's only good for something like 23-25 goals we could be in trouble this season.
He was on pace for 36 G, 36 A during the shortened season. I think he can bounce back after a down year.

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07-30-2014, 06:28 PM
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Pretty fair projections, not sure where the hate is stemming from.

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07-31-2014, 03:38 PM
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He was on pace for 36 G, 36 A during the shortened season. I think he can bounce back after a down year.
Ya, whether he can bounce back is really the question, isn't it? That pace he was on in the shortened season was before his concussion.

Hopefully the optimists are right.

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07-31-2014, 03:42 PM
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Kreider - 26 G
Stepan - 15 G
Nash - 25 G
Zuccarello - 23 G
MSL - 32 G
Hagelin - 22 G
Brassard - 14 G
Stempniak - 9 G
Lombardi - 8 G
D. Moore - 9 G
Glass - 2 G
Miller - 3 G

McD - 7 G
G - 5 G
J. Moore - 7 G
Staal - 2 G
Klein - 4 G
Boyle - 6 G

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07-31-2014, 04:48 PM
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Wow, some high predictions for Nash in here - 30 goals, 35 goals, 40 goals - I hope you guys are right. Getting the feeling if he's only good for something like 23-25 goals we could be in trouble this season.
Nash is pretty much a lock for 30 over a full season. That's not being optimistic, that's realism

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07-31-2014, 04:51 PM
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He was on pace for 36 G, 36 A during the shortened season. I think he can bounce back after a down year.
Even during his down year he was on pace for 32 goals.

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Nash is pretty much a lock for 30 over a full season. That's not being optimistic, that's realism
Ya, I don't know if I would use the word 'lock' with Nash, especially after watching the playoffs, but 30 goals would certainly not surprise me. It was more the 35 and 40 goal predictions that made you wonder where the line blurred between realism and simply hoping for the best.

I think the big key will be whether Nash goes back to playing the way he did before his concussion, going to the net with abandon forging his way through defensemen, not caring if he gets hit. Did not do that in the playoffs, but hopefully it will come back to him.

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In the playoffs Nash was definitely more physical. Nash's game doesn't translate well to the playoffs. He thrives when given space that just isn't available in the playoffs. Nash has to change his game and figure out what works, hopefully he does that next year in the playoffs.

Reg season though he's still a good goal scorer. His career history suggests he's a lock for 30. I believe that his assist numbers being so down last year was a fluke, so we'll see if those rebound. Nash will either be with Brass and Zucc or step and Kreider/MSL, so he will be with talented guys.

40 goals wouldn't surprise me, he certainly has the talent to do it, I'm expecting around 35, which should be a very reasonable expectation for Rick.

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In the playoffs Nash was definitely more physical. Nash's game doesn't translate well to the playoffs. He thrives when given space that just isn't available in the playoffs. Nash has to change his game and figure out what works, hopefully he does that next year in the playoffs.

Reg season though he's still a good goal scorer. His career history suggests he's a lock for 30. I believe that his assist numbers being so down last year was a fluke, so we'll see if those rebound. Nash will either be with Brass and Zucc or step and Kreider/MSL, so he will be with talented guys.

40 goals wouldn't surprise me, he certainly has the talent to do it, I'm expecting around 35, which should be a very reasonable expectation for Rick.
All I can say is, I hope you're right. We need Rick Nash to score goals.

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All I can say is, I hope you're right. We need Rick Nash to score goals.
Regular season I'm not worried about, it's the playoffs I really hope he figures it out

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