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08-28-2014, 04:45 PM
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Doesn't seem like a much better option than Arco, but would at least create some competition.

Edit: his face off %'s are horrible tho.
That's what we need. Competition for the 2C spot. I think we're the only team that doesn't have competition or depth at centre... Thats really sad. Makes you miss the Stoll, Horcoff, Reasoner days

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08-28-2014, 04:48 PM
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If you're thinking of the same Boston Globe article that I read, the author speculated that Boychuk might be worth $6 million to a team in need of defense and not that Boychuk was going to pursue that kind of money. That's an important difference.
I don't remember exactly where I saw it, but when you see guys like Orpik getting $5.5 it's reasonable to think that Boychuk could easily get $6+.

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08-28-2014, 05:04 PM
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The Bruins will have to be cap compliant (including Savard's cap hit) before the season starts. Then only after the season starts, can they put Savard & his cap hit in LTIR.
Whats the penalty if they're not? Last I heard was that if your team isn't cap compliant for your games, then you forfeit those games. Maybe they changed the rules since the last CBA though.

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08-28-2014, 05:08 PM
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If you're thinking of the same Boston Globe article that I read, the author speculated that Boychuk might be worth $6 million to a team in need of defense and not that Boychuk was going to pursue that kind of money. That's an important difference.
Thanks for the clarification.

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08-28-2014, 05:22 PM
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I don't remember exactly where I saw it, but when you see guys like Orpik getting $5.5 it's reasonable to think that Boychuk could easily get $6+.
Oh yeah, I'd be shocked if he couldn't get at least Orpik money if he wanted. That doesn't mean that he'll end up signing for that amount of money though. The money might not be the most important factor for him. Take Brad Richards this year. He could've easily pulled in $6 million short term but instead is in Chicago for $2 million. The Oilers are no Chicago, but you never know what Boychuk wants.

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No problem!

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08-28-2014, 05:24 PM
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The Bruins will have to be cap compliant (including Savard's cap hit) before the season starts. Then only after the season starts, can they put Savard & his cap hit in LTIR.
Teams are allowed to go over the cap by 10% in the offseason.

They'll be fine.


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08-28-2014, 05:26 PM
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Teams are allowed to go over the cap by 10% in the offseason.

They'll be fine.
Yes they can, but there is a one day gap or something that you can't use LTIR to your advantage and need to be under the cap with your Savard's and no 10% overage.

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08-28-2014, 05:29 PM
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Yes they can, but there is a one day gap or something that you can't use LTIR to your advantage and need to be under the cap with your Savard's and no 10% overage.
What's the penalty if they aren't?

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08-28-2014, 05:41 PM
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Yes they can, but there is a one day gap or something that you can't use LTIR to your advantage and need to be under the cap with your Savard's and no 10% overage.
They only need to submit a 20 man opening night roster, so it'll be pretty easy for them to get under the cap for that day.

After that they can put Savard on the LTIR, sign Krug/Smith and call up a player or two for a 22/23 man roster.

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08-28-2014, 05:53 PM
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They only need to submit a 20 man opening night roster, so it'll be pretty easy for them to get under the cap for that day.

After that they can put Savard on the LTIR, sign Krug/Smith and call up a player or two for a 22/23 man roster.
Have you looked at capgeek? They are over with a 20 man opening night. Unless of course they waive Kelly(900k savings or whatever), but then can they get Krug/Smith signed for 4.025mil?

Ideally they'll need to lose Kelly.

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08-28-2014, 05:57 PM
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Have you looked at capgeek? They are over with a 20 man opening night. Unless of course they waive Kelly(900k savings or whatever), but then can they get Krug/Smith signed for 4.025mil?

Ideally they'll need to lose Kelly.
They have 21 players(12F/7D/2G) on capgeek's page right now.

Send Hamilton to the AHL for that day and the team is under with a 20 man roster by about $100k.

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08-28-2014, 06:01 PM
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Yes they can, but there is a one day gap or something that you can't use LTIR to your advantage and need to be under the cap with your Savard's and no 10% overage.
I don't believe that.. i'm pretty sure theres a day towards the end of september that both Pronger and Savard will both go on LTIR and both teams will be cap compliant. but hell what do I know. not my job to anyway

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08-28-2014, 06:25 PM
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Doesn't seem like a much better option than Arco, but would at least create some competition.

Edit: his face off %'s are horrible tho.
Im down to trade one of our guys with high value that is detrimental to the team. Perron for example brings needed grit however he puts us on the PK 50+ times per season. Not only does that create more GA 20% of those times but it also keeps the kids off the ice during important moments in a game where we need to regain or maintain momentum.. or press in the final moments for a game tying or gwg. I would also be down for trading Schultz who seems to think there is a new old boys club in the dressing room as well as Eberle whos tight comraderie will hall could also end up splitting the team environment. This would not only fetch us a kings ransom but also make room for a different 1OA pick to play the top line minutes his pedigree demands.

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08-28-2014, 06:32 PM
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They have 21 players(12F/7D/2G) on capgeek's page right now.

Send Hamilton to the AHL for that day and the team is under with a 20 man roster by about $100k.
The minimum active roster is 22. (Note: This is not correct so please ignore.


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08-28-2014, 06:37 PM
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The minimum active roster is 22.
This page on NHL.com says 20.

Is it out of date?

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08-28-2014, 06:41 PM
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Seems like there's still a few teams that may need to make some type of move to get at least a little bit of breathing room. Was also surprised that Tampa is in as bad shape as they are with cap space.

Did Saku Koivu retire? Or is he still looking for a contract? He might be an ok option to provide some depth down the middle.

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08-28-2014, 06:45 PM
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The Bruins will have to be cap compliant (including Savard's cap hit) before the season starts. Then only after the season starts, can they put Savard & his cap hit in LTIR.
This isn't actually true.

http://www.capgeek.com/faq/how-does-...erve-LTIR-work
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At the start of a season, teams facing long-term injury situations essentially have two options if they want to maximize their cap space for the rest of the year.

OPTION 1: Build the injured player into their opening-day roster and have that roster fit as close to the upper limit as possible without exceeding it, then place the player on LTIR.

....

OPTION 2: Put the injured player on LTIR on the final day of training camp and, including the injured player’s annual average salary or cap hit, build a roster that exceeds the upper limit by an amount that is as close as possible to the injured player's annual average salary.
There are some benefits to being under the cap for day one of the season and then putting a player on LTIR, but teams can put players on LTIR on the final day of training camp in order to make themselves cap compliant.

Here's an article about the Flyers who are in the same position with Pronger as the Bruins with Savard.

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/201...p-pronger-ltir

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This page on NHL.com says 20.

Is it out of date?
Wasn't there a scenario a few years ago where the Flames were in cap trouble after the trade deadline, and once they had a few injuries they couldn't call up replacements because they would go over the cap. I'm sure we played them where they only dressed 17 guys.

Maybe these roster stipulations are part of the new CBA for this very reason?

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Gregor & Brownlee figure $3.25-$3.5m for Schultz for 1 year.

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Gregor & Brownlee figure $3.25-$3.5m for Schultz for 1 year.
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Gregor & Brownlee figure $3.25-$3.5m for Schultz for 1 year.
Stauffer reported a week or 2 ago saying he's now hearing a 1 year deal "in the 3's", might have said mid-3s.

I'm assuming this is taking as long as it has because Schultz and Oilers were a decent amount apart. Stauffer said at the start of the summer he was expecting a 1 or 2 year deal for 2.5-2.75. Now it's changed to a 1 year ~3.5

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Gregor & Brownlee figure $3.25-$3.5m for Schultz for 1 year.
Yeah, that's not exactly a team-friendly contract. Why do I get the sense that this is headed to a Gagner situation where the player ends up getting more long-term than is feasible keeping?

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08-29-2014, 02:25 AM
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Yeah, that's not exactly a team-friendly contract. Why do I get the sense that this is headed to a Gagner situation where the player ends up getting more long-term than is feasible keeping?
The hope of course is that Schultz continues to develop beyond his first 1.5 seasons of NHL hockey and will be worth a long term contract worth keeping.

I'm perfectly fine with a 1 year deal around 3.5. He either develops further and gets a raise. Or doesn't and we have a better idea of what type of finished player he will be.

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Gregor & Brownlee figure $3.25-$3.5m for Schultz for 1 year.
One year at 3.25 or 3.5 is something I can live with. I guess.

Was hoping for 2.75.

At least it isn't something grotesque.

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This page on NHL.com says 20.

Is it out of date?
No it's not out of date. I was wrong!!!

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