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09-14-2005, 11:08 AM
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Francis retires!

Ron Francis retires. Too bad.

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/187849.html

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Not surprising, though. Good luck to Ronnie Franchise. One of my favorite players.

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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=136299

I thought hell would freeze over before Francis, Messier and Chelios would retire. Wonder when that last one is goin to drop.

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Thats gonna be one hell of a HOF class

Messier
Francis
Stevens
MacInnis

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Congrats to :
1- one of the best players of all time
2- one of the best leaders of all time
3- one of the classiest players of all time on and off the ice.


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Congrats to :
1- one of the best players of all time
2- one of the best leaders of all time
3- one of the classiest players of all time on and off the ice.

Agreed completely, Ron Francis did so much charity work and conducted himself in a way that made him a role model for young players. I'm glad he got his two Stanley Cup rings in Pittsburgh.

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Congrats to :
1- one of the best players of all time
Cue OgoPogo telling us that Francis wasn't a great player, just an excellent player for a long time, but not great.

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Thank you Ronnie for an awesome time. I always liked your play and your character.

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Francis, Jagr, Lemieux. Those were the days...

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Cue OgoPogo telling us that Francis wasn't a great player, just an excellent player for a long time, but not great.
Bingo

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Cue OgoPogo telling us that Francis wasn't a great player, just an excellent player for a long time, but not great.
I don't know about ordinal statistics but shouldn't excellet be in the same league as great?

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Like Messier, Francis' place in the all-time scoring list is a reflection of his longevity. But like Messier, stats never told the whole story with Francis. He was a model of consistency year after year, a player who put up points, while providing consistent excellence in the defensive zone and the locker room. He's one of the best ever at faceoffs, and also one of the best forwards ever at quarterbacking the point on the power-play. He was fantastic with Pittsburgh in their Cup runs in 1991 and 1992, and carried Carolina on his back for portions of their Cup run in 2002. While people talk about him putting up points in the run-and-gun 80s, let's not forget that he scored at nearly a point-per-game clip in 2000 and 2002, despite being over 35, playing in a defensive system, and playing with mostly mediocre players.

Francis excelled for years in obscurity in Hartford. He played second banana to Lemieux in Pittsburgh, but when called to get the job done as a first liner, he did it. (Watch his performance in the 1992 playoffs). Was fantastic for Pittsburgh in 1995 (a crime that he didn't get an all-star selection that year, winning the best defensive and most sportsmanlike awards in the same year while scoring at a 100-point clip is truly impressive) and 1997-98 in the top centre role.

2008 HHOF class: Francis, Messier, Stevens and MacInnis.

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Easily one of my all-time favorites. The guy just oozed class, talent and character. It was a privilege having him in Pittsburgh, especially for the Cup years (which, without him, would likely not have even been Cup years).

Congratulations on a long and illustrious career Ronnie.

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The epitome of class and what a hockey career.

The league's loss is the Hall of Fame's gain.

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Ron Francis would be remembered completely differently if he hadn't played in the boonies of hockeydom for most of his career.

Even in Pittsburgh he was often overshadowed by the sheer concentration of talent on those teams.

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Doesn't get the credit he deserves.


Classiest hockey player ever.

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Cue the Brass Bonanza one last time for Ronnie. Truly a class act.

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Really classy player. So long, Ron.

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He finally lightened up.



He was one of those guys I could never hate as an opponent.

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Really classy player. So long, Ron.
Agreed.

I will miss him.

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Francis, Jagr, Lemieux. Those were the days...
francis, dineen, ferraro.
those were the days...
i wonder how many people realize he is second all time in assists, only gretzky has more. fourth all time scoring.

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You nailed it.

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He was apart of the 2002 Canes team whose opponents couldn't even hate them.

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I thought hell would freeze over before Francis, Messier and Chelios would retire. Wonder when that last one is goin to drop.

Chelios didn't retire yet.


Now how does Francis go into the hall? Would he be listed as a Carolina Hurricane? I don't think anyone from the Whalers is in the hall...

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Chelios didn't retire yet.


Now how does Francis go into the hall? Would he be listed as a Carolina Hurricane? I don't think anyone from the Whalers is in the hall...

I don't think he would be listed as a Hurricane. Just a guess. lol

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