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09-14-2005, 09:57 PM
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I've never seen any proof of what Pittsburgh offered, I doubt it was as much, but I'll take your word for it.

As for 100% effort every shift, I go to alot of games and I've never seen it. What you see on tv and what you see live can be to very diiferent things.
Are we supposed to view you as an expert because you go to 'alot' of games? How many is 'alot'?

I watch EVERY game, mostly on TV and a few live and I ALWAYS see it.....

I think it's just too easy for people to hop on the OL' Rippin Tie Domi Train cause it's the fun thing to do!!! Maybe these people should take a step back, open their eyes and realize what he's done for this team.

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Wouldn't totally surprise me. Contrary to what some people think, this would be very much in line with the way Roberts is. That's why I always used to laugh when people would suggest that Roberts should have been captain of the Leafs.

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Are we supposed to view you as an expert because you go to 'alot' of games? How many is 'alot'?

I watch EVERY game, mostly on TV and a few live and I ALWAYS see it.....

I think it's just too easy for people to hop on the OL' Rippin Tie Domi Train cause it's the fun thing to do!!! Maybe these people should take a step back, open their eyes and realize what he's done for this team.
Or maybe he's just a waste fo cap space at $1.25 million.

But that couldn't be it could it?

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Why would the reporter say this if it were not true? Calling a guy out like that is not done recklessly in this business.
This is the Toronto media and even more revealing, it is the Toronto Star. The Star and the Sun both go for publicity. They don't care about the truth, what they care about is getting people riled up into some controversy so that they buy more newspapers. Still I can't say that these rumours are totally untrue because I have no proof. I will say that according to the Star's track record the rumours are likely hot air or a major twisting of the truth.

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I know a guy who skated with alot of Leafs once the lockout ended. He had nothing but good things to say about Roberts but he did mention that there is one current Leaf that was there that the others, including current Leafs, can't stand. I won't say who because I can't provide proof.
let me guess...darcy tucker.

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I dislike Domi... Here is why HE SUCKS!!

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Or maybe he's just a waste fo cap space at $1.25 million.

But that couldn't be it could it?
I don't see how that is a waste of Cap space? This guy has fought for the honour of your team for the past ten years!!!! How many times has he lifted the spirits of his teammates with a huge fight over a hated opponent? How many players have played with a more secure confident feeling knowing that Domi is there watching their backs?? How many times have you cheered when he grabs an opponent by his helmet strap and pulls him in close to yell at him for going after one of his friends?? How many times do you come across an enforcer that can skate like Domi. He digs the puck out of the corners as well as anybody and can also bury a few pucks in the net when he gets a chance. He skates in hard on the forecheck every time! He plays aggressive defensively! Doesn't all of this help the Leafs win games or is he just a bum riding the bench???

Is an enforcer like this worth having???

Brashear - 1.7 million
Laraque - 1.03 million

Sorry buddy but if you want Domi on your team 1.25 million is how much he's worth!!!

Obviously you don't though.....how soon they forget......

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I don't see how that is a waste of Cap space? This guy has fought for the honour of your team for the past ten years!!!! How many times has he lifted the spirits of his teammates with a huge fight over a hated opponent? How many players have played with a more secure confident feeling knowing that Domi is there watching their backs?? How many times have you cheered when he grabs an opponent by his helmet strap and pulls him in close to yell at him for going after one of his friends?? How many times do you come across an enforcer that can skate like Domi. He digs the puck out of the corners as well as anybody and can also bury a few pucks in the net when he gets a chance. He skates in hard on the forecheck every time! He plays aggressive defensively! Doesn't all of this help the Leafs win games or is he just a bum riding the bench???

Is an enforcer like this worth having???

Brashear - 1.7 million
Laraque - 1.03 million

Sorry buddy but if you want Domi on your team 1.25 million is how much he's worth!!!

Obviously you don't though.....how soon they forget......
Both ofmthe above are overpaid (you can ask the fans of their respective teams) and I don't give a **** about "earning honour." I want to win and quite frankly if that means releasing a heart and soul guy for someone that will help us win more games, so be it.

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I don't see how that is a waste of Cap space? This guy has fought for the honour of your team for the past ten years!!!! How many times has he lifted the spirits of his teammates with a huge fight over a hated opponent? How many players have played with a more secure confident feeling knowing that Domi is there watching their backs?? How many times have you cheered when he grabs an opponent by his helmet strap and pulls him in close to yell at him for going after one of his friends?? How many times do you come across an enforcer that can skate like Domi. He digs the puck out of the corners as well as anybody and can also bury a few pucks in the net when he gets a chance. He skates in hard on the forecheck every time! He plays aggressive defensively! Doesn't all of this help the Leafs win games or is he just a bum riding the bench???

Is an enforcer like this worth having???

Brashear - 1.7 million
Laraque - 1.03 million

Sorry buddy but if you want Domi on your team 1.25 million is how much he's worth!!!

Obviously you don't though.....how soon they forget......
Domi is not the Enforcer, he's below the level he'll fight secondary fighters, Belak takes care of the heavyweights. He does play hard I admit that. I rather see his spot given to a guy like Kukemberg and Belak their to provide the muscle.

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09-14-2005, 10:45 PM
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Both ofmthe above are overpaid (you can ask the fans of their respective teams) and I don't give a **** about "earning honour." I want to win and quite frankly if that means releasing a heart and soul guy for someone that will help us win more games, so be it.
Heart and soul guys are exactly the ones that help you win more games......It's called chemistry!! Domi has been a central part of that for the Leafs for quite some time now. You're talking like he's making 3 or 4 million bucks here. It's 1.25 million how much more can you save by letting him go???? Play Kukumberg instead? Now you got an extra 700K go out and get that winner of a player you've been looking for.

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Look at the author of the article - Rosie Dimanno... She's a total fruitcake. Nothing she says should be believed.
Sadly Finska is being too kind with this comment. Rosie is the only reporter that discusses hockey that makes me consider reading Simmons for relief.

Primarily because she uses esoteric and entirely unnecssary language to mask the fact she has absolutely no idea what she's talking about.

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Sadly Finska is being too kind with this comment. Rosie is the only reporter that discusses hockey that makes me consider reading Simmons for relief.

Primarily because she uses esoteric and entirely unnecssary language to mask the fact she has absolutely no idea what she's talking about.

Yeah, she's the one who wrote an article calling Heatley a punk.
Literally, she wrote a whole article with the title and everything calling Heatley a punk.

All the dudes they interviewed with Bill Watters and Leaf TV guys and some other reporters all had one thing to say, which is: We respect Rosie but she's a a bit out of her league on this one.

Come on, she writes about politics and dull articles about everything from Karla Homolka to Live 8 concerts.

I'm a bit flabbergasted to learn her link made these forums.


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After all what Gary Roberts have done for you guys....I can't believe peeps are actually going to believe this article. Just sounds like a writer who is just bitter about Roberts taking off, just like at least one of you fans are.

Also, some of you keep saying "i've heard rumors before" or "this sounds like something he would do"...huh? what? Do you have anything to back those statements up?

Ridiculous.

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Also, some of you keep saying "i've heard rumors before" or "this sounds like something he would do"...huh? what? Do you have anything to back those statements up?
Remember the whole Shayne Corson incident? Remember the constant rumours that Roberts didn't get along with Pat Quinn? Remember Roberts refusing to play with certain players on the team? Remember the rumours of him being too hard on young players when they made mistakes?

Great player? Yes. Did I like the guy? Yes. Captain material? No.

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Are we supposed to view you as an expert because you go to 'alot' of games? How many is 'alot'?

I watch EVERY game, mostly on TV and a few live and I ALWAYS see it.....

I think it's just too easy for people to hop on the OL' Rippin Tie Domi Train cause it's the fun thing to do!!! Maybe these people should take a step back, open their eyes and realize what he's done for this team.
Not a fun thing to do at all. Wish he wasn't here, as I have for years, and we wouldn't have to discuss him at all.

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Beyond that... it seems incredibly uncharacteristic of Roberts. He's widely regarded as a class player that would do anything for his team and given 100% every night.
Hardly seems like the type of guy that would intentionally try to undermine Sundin's leadership and create a poor impression of him in the dressingroom.
I have no respect for Roberts ...personal reasons. ...and I believe he's capable of saying things behind players backs.

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Out of curiousity.

Does anyone here actually truely believe that with the frenzied circus that is the Toronto Sports media, who loves nothing more than to kick our teams when they're down, that had Roberts actually whispered these musings they wouldn't make front page headlines?

How can you guys honestly say that Cox, Simmons or Strachan through their own discretion passed up the opportunity to have ROBERT'S TRASHES CAPTAIN as their headline?

Come on guys, I thought you knew the Toronto press better than that, god knows, there's enough threads about them that would justify my saying that you do.

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Out of curiousity.

Does anyone here actually truely believe that with the frenzied circus that is the Toronto Sports media, who loves nothing more than to kick our teams when they're down, that had Roberts actually whispered these musings they wouldn't make front page headlines?

How can you guys honestly say that Cox, Simmons or Strachan through their own discretion passed up the opportunity to have ROBERT'S TRASHES CAPTAIN as their headline?

Come on guys, I thought you knew the Toronto press better than that, god knows, there's enough threads about them that would justify my saying that you do.

Good point. Lets get real folks.

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I don't see how that is a waste of Cap space? This guy has fought for the honour of your team for the past ten years!!!! How many times has he lifted the spirits of his teammates with a huge fight over a hated opponent? How many players have played with a more secure confident feeling knowing that Domi is there watching their backs?? How many times have you cheered when he grabs an opponent by his helmet strap and pulls him in close to yell at him for going after one of his friends?? How many times do you come across an enforcer that can skate like Domi. He digs the puck out of the corners as well as anybody and can also bury a few pucks in the net when he gets a chance. He skates in hard on the forecheck every time! He plays aggressive defensively! Doesn't all of this help the Leafs win games or is he just a bum riding the bench???

Is an enforcer like this worth having???

Brashear - 1.7 million
Laraque - 1.03 million

Sorry buddy but if you want Domi on your team 1.25 million is how much he's worth!!!

Obviously you don't though.....how soon they forget......
All I remember is the stupid elbow that he threw vs NJD when they were out of the series, and woke them up, in a year we had a good chance at the finals.
He never would have worn a Leaf jersey in another era after such a selfish and costly act.

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who cares... who knows...


regardless of how roberts was seen through the media means nothing about the person he is on the inside.

on that note... the truth will always be unknown, because a) roberts would never own up to it and b) sundin would never reveal the "truth" to bring it to the media forefront.

let it die... he's a panther now.

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Remember the whole Shayne Corson incident? Remember the constant rumours that Roberts didn't get along with Pat Quinn? Remember Roberts refusing to play with certain players on the team? Remember the rumours of him being too hard on young players when they made mistakes?

Great player? Yes. Did I like the guy? Yes. Captain material? No.
Corson leaving was also beacuse of Moginly's wife situation. was it not?

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Gary Roberts and Shayne Corson have hated each other since junior hockey, though I don't know what started their feud initially.

After Roberts recovered from his neck injury with the Flames, it was no secret that he was unwilling to play on the team as long as Theo Fleury was captain. He was soon traded to Carolina.

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Gary Roberts and Shayne Corson have hated each other since junior hockey, though I don't know what started their feud initially.

After Roberts recovered from his neck injury with the Flames, it was no secret that he was unwilling to play on the team as long as Theo Fleury was captain. He was soon traded to Carolina.
what does Fleury have to do with Corson?

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I really find that all that stuff about Roberts hard to believe.

I also liked how the author failed to mention Mogilny when making the point that Sundin never had any good linemates.

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I really find that all that stuff about Roberts hard to believe.

I also liked how the author failed to mention Mogilny when making the point that Sundin never had any good linemates.

Mogilny often played on the second line.

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