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08-03-2014, 03:25 PM
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It was not just one fan. Again go read pages 8-10 of that thread, the majority that posted there would prefer Kane, including some of the mods. Even funnier is they are using false information to make their argument.
More than 2 full pages of jets fans arguing they preferKane on their team than hall.
Remember Jets fans, Kane is a 2009 draft, while hall is a 2010 draft. Who is older player?

Maybe you guys thought Patrick Kane was on your team.
Where do you read this? The majority of posters would not prefer Kane over Hall. I can hardly find one post, let alone two pages.

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08-03-2014, 03:36 PM
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My thought process:
Gallagher: How long can he play at this level of intensity in that frame, I see him getting banged up, sell while the value is high. Also Kane replaces him on the top line.
Where is Gallagher going to slot in our lineup?

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Tinordi: Can be sacrificed as the Habs have their core D locked up for 3 more years at minimum. Beaulieu and Pateryn IMO have passed him on the depth chart.
Lukewarm on Tinordi. We have enough offensively challenged LHD in our system.

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Tokarski: Career Back-up at best. Did great in a tough spot last season, but he isn't a long term solution in MTL.
He needs waivers does he not? Pass.

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2015 1st: This is the only piece that is tough to move. 2015 looks like a great draft, and if the Habs have a down year they will be kicking themselves for moving it.
This is what we're looking for.

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08-03-2014, 04:34 PM
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Where is Gallagher going to slot in our lineup?



Lukewarm on Tinordi. We have enough offensively challenged LHD in our system.



He needs waivers does he not? Pass.



This is what we're looking for.
Gallagher replaces Kane, he can play both wings.

I think Gallagher and a 1st in '15 is a great start to a trade. Pick one of the prospects and maybe an over-priced roster player and it works.

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08-03-2014, 04:44 PM
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Gallagher, Tinordi, Tokarski, Habs 1st in 15

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Kane
not only is that bad value for us but ur trading our only top 6 RW'er for a LW'er when we already have a logjam at that position (chucky, patches)

where is galchenyuk gonna play and whos gonna take gallaghers spot? im sure youre planning on moving plek for a top 6 RWer, if so ill let you get to it, seems like you have a busy summer ahead of you bergy.

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08-03-2014, 04:52 PM
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not only is that bad value for us but ur trading our only top 6 RW'er for a LW'er when we already have a logjam at that position (chucky, patches)

where is galchenyuk gonna play and whos gonna take gallaghers spot? im sure youre planning on moving plek for a top 6 RWer, if so ill let you get to it, seems like you have a busy summer ahead of you bergy.
Are you suggesting that most of Montreal's forwards can only play one wing?

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08-03-2014, 04:53 PM
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I was thinking about NYI and how they are just about finished their rebuild and can start competing again. I thought they adding a young, top 6 winger on the 1st line with Tavares and Okposo that it would be helpful for them for many years.

NYI has a load of good prospects/young players. Thought about this as a trade:

Nelson + Mayfield + 2016 1st round pick.

Nelson should be able to find a spot in the Jets top 9, Mayfield could eventually get in the top 6 along with Morrissey next year. And a pick that could possibly be anywhere from high to low depending on how the Islanders go.

I like it for the Islanders because they get a top, young line of E.Kane-Tavares-Okposo that should get Tavares around 100 points possibly and a dominant line physically with 2 big wingers. Dal Colle, Strome, Lee, Collberg, Ho-Sang, Cammarata are still their young players.

Kane - Tavares - Okposo
Grabovski - Strome - Kulemin
Lee - Nielsen - Bailey
Martin - Cizikas - Clutterbuck

Adding Dal Colle, Collberg, Ho-Sang possibly in a few years will look great for the Islanders.

Would have been easier giving up a 1st round pick if the 2015 wasn't given away.
Thanks to Wangs desire to put his two cents in and Snow being a yes man not too many people like playing on the Ilse. If they got a new owner and Gm NYI would be a team to be worried about. Also, Grabo is the 2nd line C while Strome develops

I gotta give them for their prospect pool though


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08-03-2014, 04:58 PM
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not only is that bad value for us but ur trading our only top 6 RW'er for a LW'er when we already have a logjam at that position (chucky, patches)

where is galchenyuk gonna play and whos gonna take gallaghers spot? im sure youre planning on moving plek for a top 6 RWer, if so ill let you get to it, seems like you have a busy summer ahead of you bergy.
Pacioretty Desharnais Parenteau
Kane Plekanec Galchenyuk
Bournival Eller Bourque
Prust Malhotra Weise

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08-04-2014, 03:11 AM
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Pacioretty Desharnais Parenteau
Kane Plekanec Galchenyuk
Bournival Eller Bourque
Prust Malhotra Weise
galchenyuk has never played RW in his career, this isnt NHL 2014 bro

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My thought process:
Gallagher: How long can he play at this level of intensity in that frame, I see him getting banged up, sell while the value is high. Also Kane replaces him on the top line.
Tinordi: Can be sacrificed as the Habs have their core D locked up for 3 more years at minimum. Beaulieu and Pateryn IMO have passed him on the depth chart.
Tokarski: Career Back-up at best. Did great in a tough spot last season, but he isn't a long term solution in MTL.
2015 1st: This is the only piece that is tough to move. 2015 looks like a great draft, and if the Habs have a down year they will be kicking themselves for moving it.
With this ringing endorsement of the players involved in the trade, how could the Jets pass up this opportunity?

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08-04-2014, 07:36 AM
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2015 1st and two promising prospects. This deal could've been 1st 2013 and three promising prospects two-three years ago. I say get it done before Kane loses value. It will also benefit our rebuild. Hoping its a team that hopes to make the playoffs but end up being bottom five.

Jets will hopefully get McDavid and Hanifin.

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2015 1st
shink
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If the Jets do trade Evander Kane they better ask for a good goalie back, that position is 1 of weakness to them.

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If the Jets do trade Evander Kane they better ask for a good goalie back, that position is 1 of weakness to them.
The problem is that we already have a $4M thing in net, so we can't take on extra salary without getting rid of him, and we really don't need young promising goaltenders who haven't proven themselves in the NHL either.

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If the Jets do trade Evander Kane they better ask for a good goalie back, that position is 1 of weakness to them.
Ottawa lazar+ stone + 1st = Kane
Pheonix Perlini + Domi + 3rd= Kane
Nashville Sgarbossa + Fiala + 2nd = Kane


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galchenyuk has never played RW in his career, this isnt NHL 2014 bro
LOL at Galchenyuk not being able to play on his off-wing. He's a real stud if he can't make that adjustment.

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If the Jets do trade Evander Kane they better ask for a good goalie back, that position is 1 of weakness to them.
Won't happen unless the trading team takes Pavelec back. Cheveldayoff has stated that the goaltending situation will be settled internally, and that means Hutchinson will be backing up Pavelec until he takes the starter role.

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The problem is that we already have a $4M thing in net, so we can't take on extra salary without getting rid of him, and we really don't need young promising goaltenders who haven't proven themselves in the NHL either.
no interest in Lack or Markstrom as cheapish options to push Pav?
in pkg deal, obviously

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no interest in Lack or Markstrom as cheapish options to push Pav?
in pkg deal, obviously
Not really. Lack would be to replace Pavelec. We had a backup last year who did splendidly pushing Pavs. Didn't make a difference. I don't doubt that Hutchinson will be better than Pavelec too.

No interest in Markström at all, honestly. He would just take starts from Hellebuyck in the AHL.

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no interest in Lack or Markstrom as cheapish options to push Pav?
in pkg deal, obviously
We already have Hutchinson with nothing left to prove at the AHL level and is ready to push Pavelec this season. He's subject to waivers now too so he's not someone we can just move around as needed, as we really don't want to lose Hutch to waivers.

Unless we're getting rid of Pavelec first, we don't need another goalie.

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How bout Thomas Plekanec and Magnus Nygren?

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How bout Thomas Plekanec and Magnus Nygren?
Not interested in Plekanec as a main piece.

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How bout Thomas Plekanec and Magnus Nygren?
In a vacuum the value isn't bad. But we can't afford to do this when center isn't our position of need right now, and Plekanec's contract is up in 2 years. Even if we did keep him he'd automatically be our oldest center and isn't going to push us into contention.

I don't know anything about Nygren but I doubt he's the difference between Kane and Plekanec.

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In a vacuum the value isn't bad. But we can't afford to do this when center isn't our position of need right now, and Plekanec's contract is up in 2 years. Even if we did keep him he'd automatically be our oldest center and isn't going to push us into contention.

I don't know anything about Nygren but I doubt he's the difference between Kane and Plekanec.
I don't really think the value is there either, disregarding positional needs.

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I don't really think the value is there either, disregarding positional needs.
NJ Quennville + Severson + 2nd for Kane
2 good prospects, did not want Brunner so replaced with 2nd

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not only is that bad value for us but ur trading our only top 6 RW'er for a LW'er when we already have a logjam at that position (chucky, patches)

where is galchenyuk gonna play and whos gonna take gallaghers spot? im sure youre planning on moving plek for a top 6 RWer, if so ill let you get to it, seems like you have a busy summer ahead of you bergy.
Galchenyuk should be playing his natural position at centre. Plek or DD will need to be on the block this season.

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