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Saturated market for goalies - what happens with Budaj ?

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08-08-2014, 10:38 AM
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Saturated market for goalies - what happens with Budaj ?

As you know Therrien decided to go with Tokarski against the Rangers and thus Budaj has become expendable and I highly doubt he'll come back with Montreal next season.

He's got one year left at 1.4M.

The problem here is from what I gather very few teams are looking for a backup goalie and there is still Brodeur, Bryzgalov and Thomas available for free.

Teams that MIGHT be interested in Budaj: WIN, NJ, NSH, CBJ, CHI, PHX, BOS

Budaj could find himself on waivers but even in Hamilton the Habs have already signed Joey MacDonald and want to develop Condon so there's no room for Budaj.

Perhaps wait for training camp and if injuries strike somewhere Budaj could be headed there ? If not is loaning him out to the KHL an option ?

If Reimer is traded perhaps Toronto would be interested.

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Sorry, forgot he was under contract, he's likely to get waived after Camp.

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Hold onto all three goalies until another team has one of their goalies injured and send Budaj to them. Dallas might be a good location considering how awful Lindback is.

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As you know Therrien decided to go with Tokarski against the Rangers and thus Budaj has become expendable and I highly doubt he'll come back with Montreal next season.

He's got one year left at 1.4M.

The problem here is from what I gather very few teams are looking for a backup goalie and there is still Brodeur, Bryzgalov and Thomas available for free.

Teams that MIGHT be interested in Budaj: WIN, NJ, NSH, CBJ, CHI, PHX, BOS

Budaj could find himself on waivers but even in Hamilton the Habs have already signed Joey MacDonald and want to develop Condon so there's no room for Budaj.

Perhaps wait for training camp and if injuries strike somewhere Budaj could be headed there ? If not is loaning him out to the KHL an option ?

If Reimer is traded perhaps Toronto would be interested.
He's not a bad option, but there are a lot of FA's such as Thomas, Bryz, Khabbi, Vokoun, etc. who could be better options if we trade Reimer. There are also other trade options. He'd have to come at like minimum. Maybe like Orr/McLaren and a crap prospect since he may be waived anyways.

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NJ has zero interest in Budaj

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Habs may be hard pressed to waive Budaj...but the writing was on the wall when Tokarski was starting playoff games over a healthy Budaj.

If he is placed on waiver - you know Winnipeg will be all over that...

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Habs may be hard pressed to waive Budaj...but the writing was on the wall when Tokarski was starting playoff games over a healthy Budaj.

If he is placed on waiver - you know Winnipeg will be all over that...
No they wouldn't. He's not much of an upgrade over Hutchinson, so they'd rather just roll with him and let him develop as the backup since Budaj won't improving their goalie situation.

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No they wouldn't. He's not much of an upgrade over Hutchinson, so they'd rather just roll with him and let him develop as the backup since Budaj won't improving their goalie situation.
Winnipeg is the kind of team that should be carrying 3 goalies. I'm not saying Budaj should be one of them, but they should be trying different guys out.

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Winnipeg is the kind of team that should be carrying 3 goalies. I'm not saying Budaj should be one of them, but they should be trying different guys out.
Maybe, but they'd likely try out one of the FA's before Budaj. They need someone like Brodeur if he still wants to start, Vokoun, Thomas, etc. Someone cheap and can start, but it's not the end of the world if they aren't even playing at all, even as a backup. Or they should try a two-way contract with a guy like Heeter.

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What's the word on Pavelec. I keep hearing he's got a brutal contract but don't hear much about his game. Can he be a low end starter or should he be a back up?

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What's the word on Pavelec. I keep hearing he's got a brutal contract but don't hear much about his game. Can he be a low end starter or should he be a back up?
Sure if you want to draft McDavid.

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What's the word on Pavelec. I keep hearing he's got a brutal contract but don't hear much about his game. Can he be a low end starter or should he be a back up?
He's that rare workhorse of suckage. Belongs in the KHL.

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What's the word on Pavelec. I keep hearing he's got a brutal contract but don't hear much about his game. Can he be a low end starter or should he be a back up?
He's like a good backup. If he's paired with a good starter, you've got a good tandem. But he shouldn't have more than 30 games with him as your starter unless you want to risk losing a lot of games. His contract is what is killing him. He had 1 good year and capitalized with money. Every other year he was below-average or just average.

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he's better than dubnyk and lindback.

the only reason those guys get a contract is because their rights holders think they can make a ben bishop out of them because they are tall.

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Budaj should probably be taking a look at what's available in the KHL.

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he's better than dubnyk and lindback.

the only reason those guys get a contract is because their rights holders think they can make a ben bishop out of them because they are tall.
I'd take Dubnyk + Burke over Budaj. Dubnyk is going to bounce back in a big way

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Budaj is a terrible goalie, doubt he gets a NHL job very quickly if Montreal doesn't want him.

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Budaj is great locker room guy and okay backup for 20-30 games behind Price. I think they should keep him

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Budaj is great locker room guy and okay backup for 20-30 games behind Price. I think they should keep him
He is, no doubt about that, problem is we keep him we lose Tokarski off waivers. That would be just a brutal decision by Habs management

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He will be backup for Reimer on the next expansion team

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Budaj is a terrible goalie, doubt he gets a NHL job very quickly if Montreal doesn't want him.
Not quite fair. He's just unreliable in any big/pressure games. ie. If you need a guy to relieve your starter for 20 games in the regular season, be a good teammate and work hard, he's your guy. He'll give you 18 quality starts in those 20 games.

But if your starter is a health risk and/or you don't have a viable third option if your starter goes down in a big game, he's not your guy.

I know, not a ringing endorsement. But it's still a bit unfair to say he is terrible. 10-8-3, 2.51 and 9.09 last year. Pretty decent for a back-up. Owned the B's.

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he's better than dubnyk and lindback.

the only reason those guys get a contract is because their rights holders think they can make a ben bishop out of them because they are tall.
Ummm...there is some other differences:

Pavelac $3.9 mill
Lindback $925,000
Dubnyk $800,000

And at under 1 million...why not take the chance. Especially when it's guys who have had good SV% in past years

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Habs will just waive Budaj or Tokarski in October, it's no big deal. Unless some team suffers camp injuries, either one of them will likely just clear waivers and be a decent #3 option ahead of MacDonald. It's not really an issue that the Habs need to worry about today, at any rate. Re-visit at the end of camp, basically.

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I don't think anyone will really want Budaj at 1.4. There are tons of capable goaltenders out there.

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The Habs went with the hot goalie in the playoffs. That doesn't mean the same guy gets a job out of camp. Tokarski wasn't good enough last Summer, to win a job, who's to say he will be this time around?

Montreal will keep Budaj until he is expendable and that won't be before camp.

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