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Col - Tor blockbuster (mod warning post #297)

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08-08-2014, 10:04 PM
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Col - Tor blockbuster (mod warning post #297)

Core swap.

Tor gets:
Duchene
Landeskog
EJ


Col gets:
Kessel
Bozak
2015 first
Phaneuf


duchene=Kessel

Bozak + first=Landeskog

Phaneuf>=EJ

Leafs take a step back and get a bit younger, Col contends.

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08-08-2014, 10:05 PM
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LOL.

Bad for Colorado.

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This isn't a good deal for the Avs.

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Think Landeskog demands more than that
I don't see Col making this type of deal

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Duchene > Kessel
EJ > Phaneuf
Landeskog >> Bozak + 1st

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No, not a chance.

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Landeskog is worth more than Bozak and a first. The rest is a wash.

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Duchene > Kessel
EJ > Phaneuf
Landeskog >> Bozak + 1st
Phanuef getting underrated in this, but the other two are correct imo when you take into account everything.

This would be a pretty bad deal for Colorado.

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I'm tired of these posts man. The value isn't there for either team... Just bleh.

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I'm tired of these posts man. The value isn't there for either team... Just bleh.
The value is there for Toronto and it's not even debatable.

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Well I'm sure COL would like to lose in a trade just like that.

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Uh ya. You made a proposal lopsided to the other team now you need one in our favour

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The value is there for Toronto and it's not even debatable.
I don't care about player value, I'm talking about the fact we are practically trading our whole core and starting over. That's why I said both teams.

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I don't care about player value, I'm talking about the fact we are practically trading our whole core and starting over. That's why I said both teams.
Toronto should actually do that though, especially if it's for Colorado's. TO aint going anywhere

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Duchene > Kessel
EJ > Phaneuf
Landeskog >> Bozak + 1st
This is exactly how I see it as well

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Would never do it as a Leafs fan, but...

Kessel, 1st, Phaneuf, Kadri, Finn

for

Duchene, EJ, Landeskog

Kessel > Duchene
Phaneuf, Finn > EJ
Kadri, 1st =< Landeskog

JVR - Duchene - Landeskog
Lupul - Bozak - Nylander
Komarov - Santorelli - Clarkson
Winnik - Holland - Booth

Rielly - EJ
Gardiner - Robidas
Granberg/Franson - Polak

Bernier
Reimer

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Is it worth it? Our D gets no better, and we lose a really good prospect in Finn plus a tossup pick in an extremely deep draft. Our centre position improves, but we take a huge hit on the wing losing Kessel.

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08-08-2014, 10:18 PM
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When contracts are included:

Ej>>phaneuf
Duchene>kessel
Landeskog>>>>>>>bozak+1st

This is just terrible for the Avs. Not to mention it wouldn't work under the cap.

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Nah, I'd rather just trade Bozak + 2nd for ROR and end the off season

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Throw in Lupul, JVR and bozak for leafs, and mackinnon for Avs.

Not value wise.... simply because we need more players involved

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I don't care about player value, I'm talking about the fact we are practically trading our whole core and starting over. That's why I said both teams.
So you wouldn't trade your current core for one that is younger and better? Okay then.

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08-08-2014, 10:22 PM
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I don't see why Colorado does this trade. Am I missing something?

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Colorado has no reason to trade any of those pieces in this deal.
They get the better players now. They lose in the future, but they contend next season. Mackinnon and Kessel would be the best combo in the nhl.

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08-08-2014, 10:28 PM
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They get the better players now. They lose in the future, but they contend next season. Mackinnon and Kessel would be the best combo in the nhl.
Landeskog is better than Bozak, and the TOR 1st doesn't make sense in your proposed framework.

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They get the better players now. They lose in the future, but they contend next season. Mackinnon and Kessel would be the best combo in the nhl.
They don't...

Kessel + Bozak + Phaneuf instead of Duchene, Landeskog and Johnson would make us worse already right now, and in a few years that's just disgusting.

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Avs get hosed

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