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08-12-2014, 03:24 PM
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no, it doesn't change the cap hit, it just pushes when the 1st year of the contract actually starts... example: if leon got sent back to junior this year, but made the NHL next year, his ELC would start in the 2015-16 season and end in the 2017-18 season
If capgeek is correct and I can't imagine it wouldn't be at this point for ELCs, if a player is sent back to junior then it does change the minimum caphit from $925,000 (Galchenyuk) to $894,167 (Huberdeau, Drouin) which is relatively insignificant as stated above but something I hadn't realized. Of course there are also the Schedule A/B bonuses to be considered, but it appears the signing bonus is totally separate. In any event, it likely won't matter for the Oilers/Draisaitl as I can't see him being sent back to juniors given the current roster.

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Is Draisaitl really living with Yakupov now? How come I thought I heard before that he was staying with Bruce Saville? Wonder if this is just temporary before the season starts.. as Yakupov's family is usually here during the season.
I hadn't heard this. Do you have a source?

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He'll get paid his signing bonus and that's it. If he gets 9 games he'll get an NHL paycheque for however long he's on the roster but his contract will still slide to the following year.
People please quit saying slide...

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Edmonton Oilers sign centre Leon Draisaitl to a three-year entry level contract

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I hadn't heard this. Do you have a source?
Yak and Draisaitl rooming together has been talked about alot on the radio and heres an article on it:

http://oilonwhyte.com/2014/08/10/sum...pov-draisaitl/

"Fast-forward to 2014, and we see signs that this phenomena may well be playing out yet again. Nail Yakupov and 1st Round Draft pick Leon Draisaitl will both be counted on heavily this winter, probably more so than is healthy for players of their maturity. But what gives me optimism that this experiment will pan out is the fact that Yakupov and Draisaitl are rooming together, working out together, generally appearing to be attached at the hip, in Edmonton this summer."

And heres an article about Draisaitl staying with Saville, but this was before Yakupov was in town:

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/07/2...on-as-possible

"Draisaitl, 18, is currently working out with the Oilers' strength and conditioning team, while being billeted by Bruce Saville."

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He'll get paid his signing bonus and that's it. If he gets 9 games he'll get an NHL paycheque for however long he's on the roster but his contract will still slide to the following year.
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They have to play NHL regular season games to get paid.
Thanks for clearing that up guys.

BTW, I heard Drai on Oilers Now today. Sounds like he and Yakupov are doing pretty much everything together. Both have been working out and skating together. Ebs was on as well, and he sounded pretty impressed with the Drai.

Eberle said that the month he had off from the Worlds this year helped him tremendously. Gave him more time to work out and skate. Said he's never felt better in all the time he's been here.

Here's to a good season for these rising stars.


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Yak and Draisaitl rooming together has been talked about alot on the radio and heres an article on it:

http://oilonwhyte.com/2014/08/10/sum...pov-draisaitl/

"Fast-forward to 2014, and we see signs that this phenomena may well be playing out yet again. Nail Yakupov and 1st Round Draft pick Leon Draisaitl will both be counted on heavily this winter, probably more so than is healthy for players of their maturity. But what gives me optimism that this experiment will pan out is the fact that Yakupov and Draisaitl are rooming together, working out together, generally appearing to be attached at the hip, in Edmonton this summer."

And heres an article about Draisaitl staying with Saville, but this was before Yakupov was in town:

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/07/2...on-as-possible

"Draisaitl, 18, is currently working out with the Oilers' strength and conditioning team, while being billeted by Bruce Saville."
Thanks for these

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to celebrate we will go out to dinner at a sensibly-priced restaurant, then have a night of efficient german sex.
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I'm so impressed by this kid. The way he carries himself, his thoughtfulness when dealing with the press and a sense of overall maturity. Let's just hope it carries over to the ice. He's certainly very different from Yakupov.

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"Draisaitl, 18, is currently working out with the Oilers' strength and conditioning team, while being billeted by Bruce Saville."
I just glanced over this part, and thought it read "belittled by Bruce Saville" which would make a much more hilarious story.

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put him in the WHL for two years and use those cheap ELC years when this team MIGHT be half assed decent. UFA at 27 >>> UFA at 25

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put him in the WHL for two years and use those cheap ELC years when this team MIGHT be half assed decent. UFA at 27 >>> UFA at 25
oh oh oh... and then say...




are you ready???







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He'll get paid his signing bonus and that's it. If he gets 9 games he'll get an NHL paycheque for however long he's on the roster but his contract will still slide to the following year.
so the ELC doesn't start till he's in the AHL or 10 games into a NHL season?

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So I'm confused as to how these ELC's work. Does he get paid that amount even if he is sent back to the minors?
The contract kicks in only when he goes pro (NHL or AHL).

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put him in the WHL for two years and use those cheap ELC years when this team MIGHT be half assed decent. UFA at 27 >>> UFA at 25
If he's ready, he's ready. There is no point keeping him in the WHL to save on cap space sometime in the remote future. Ideally, NHL players on cheap ELC will come from later round picks (Petry, Marincin types). High picks like Draisatl are expected to be effective NHL contributors fairly soon--if they are not, then the team is screwed.

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He'll get paid his signing bonus and that's it. If he gets 9 games he'll get an NHL paycheque for however long he's on the roster but his contract will still slide to the following year.
I thought the nine games just meant he burned a year of eligibility for free agency.

Does he really not get paid per his NHL contract if he only plays eight games? It seems odd he wouldn't be entitled to a shade under 10% of his NHL salary for playing those eight games.

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Aren't NHLers paid every 2 weeks just like the rest of us?

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Gee. Now I'm more confused.

Thanks allot....chums.

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Aren't NHLers paid every 2 weeks just like the rest of us?
Yes. I know some of Wade Reddens cousins and they told me a story years ago about how when Wade was a rookie he had literally hundreds of thousands of dollars in uncashed cheques just stacked on top of his fridge.

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Gee. Now I'm more confused.

Thanks allot....chums.
Draisaitl gets the $92.5k signing bonus no matter where he plays.

For the $925k NHL salary, he'll get paid the daily value of it($925k divided by the number of days in a season...probably something like 190) for every day he's in the NHL. That gets paid out every two weeks.

If he goes back to the WHL, the money stops.


As for the sliding that some have brought up, it just means that if he plays less than 10 NHL games, his entry level contract basically gets extended a year. Right now his ELC goes from 2014/15 to 2016/17. If he plays less than 10 NHL games in 2014-15 and gets sent back to the WHL, his ELC would then be 2015/16 to 2017/18.


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Draisaitl gets the $92.5k signing bonus no matter where he plays.

For the $925k NHL salary, he'll get paid the daily value of it($925k divided by the number of days in a season...probably something like 190) for every day he's in the NHL. That gets paid out every two weeks.

If he goes back to the WHL, the money stops.


As for the sliding that some have brought up, it just means that if he plays less than 10 NHL games, his entry level contract basically gets extended a year. Right now his ELC goes from 2014/15 to 2016/17. If he plays less than 10 NHL games in 2014-15 and gets sent back to the WHL, his ELC would then be 2015/16 to 2017/18.
If the player is 18 or 19, the contract can slide, and the contract starts at 20, regardless of where he plays. But he would get paid the "AHL salary" amount if he were to go back to junior for his 20 YO season. That's why 20 YOs are rarely sent back to junior for their overage season.

Not that I think it applies to Draisaitl because he'll almost certainly be in the NHL before he's 20, but there's a strong possibility that Marco Roy will burn a year of his ELC while playing in Rimouski this season, as he'll be a 20 YO.

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Yes. I know some of Wade Reddens cousins and they told me a story years ago about how when Wade was a rookie he had literally hundreds of thousands of dollars in uncashed cheques just stacked on top of his fridge.
NHL teams have never heard of direct deposit?

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Just saw on twitter from Guy Flaming that Drai will go to Europe this year to play if he doesn't make the Oilers.

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