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Jamie McBain's landing spot?

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08-15-2014, 03:24 PM
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Jamie McBain's landing spot?

Seems like a guy that was as highly touted as they come even a couple of years ago. I know he struggled in Buffalo but certainly he still has some value. Of the remaining UFAs, he led his team in ice time. He'd be useful as a 5th/6th guy.

What type of contract do you think he'll receive?

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08-15-2014, 03:27 PM
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He's been trending downwards for years. Age and the right-handed shot are his 2 biggest selling points at this stage.

Camp tryout before he gets a contract, IMO.

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He's been trending downwards for years. Age and the right-handed shot are his 2 biggest selling points at this stage.

Camp tryout before he gets a contract, IMO.
Which parts of his game slipped the most? Of the remaining free agents, he had the highest TOI.

edit: For some reason I thought he split time between Carolina/Buffalo last year, but playing an entire year on Buffalo might be as bad.

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Which parts of his game slipped the most? Of the remaining free agents, he had the highest TOI.

edit: For some reason I thought he split time between Carolina/Buffalo last year, but playing an entire year on Buffalo might be as bad.
He can't tie up his man, they just set up camp in and around the net. He doesn't catch players that set up in front and then drift back. In the off chance he does tie up his man, the goalie always seems to get hit or injured. A cursory glance at teams that could use a bottom pairing, I think San Jose, New Jersey, Columbus, and Calgary could all take a gamble with him as an invitee or a cheap one year deal.

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Leafs may offer him a contract if we trade Franson. At the least we may offer him a PTO. We may also do the same thing with a goalie on the FA market (Bryzgalov, Thomas, Vokoun, Khabby, etc), or with any other defenseman on the market (Salo, Tallinder, maybe Morris, Sarich, Jovanovski, etc).

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Which parts of his game slipped the most? Of the remaining free agents, he had the highest TOI.

edit: For some reason I thought he split time between Carolina/Buffalo last year, but playing an entire year on Buffalo might be as bad.
He was just as bad for Carolina during the lockout year, really.

There's some offseason conditioning concerns. Two years in a row in Carolina it was an issue, and the same with the team in Finland he went to during the lockout. Could be a legitimately solid PMD if he puts it all together, and he had some flashes of brilliance playing with Pitkanen while in Carolina.

Having to be a camp invite somewhere or having to sign a contract in Europe would hopefully be a huge wake-up call to the guy, because he definitely has the talent to be a player.

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Not NHL. Honestly to me he's not an NHL caliber player anymore.

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His career track says KHL to me. He's still young but he's not AHL development young. He's too experienced to seem so raw in his game. He reminds me a lot of Bobby Sanguinetti, another guy with skill who just couldn't defend at the NHL level.

If he were to ever maximize his talent he'd be a fine player, but that seems rather unlikely now.

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KHL or possible Training Camp Invite at best.

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Wow has this guy really fallen off this quick in the past few years? He's still young and is an ok puck mover, there has to be at least 1 team that could play him in a sheltered third pairing role with a defensive D to cover up his mistakes. Or at least he could be a MAB type and come in for PP specialty.

Looks like I dumped him in my keeper league at the right time.

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I was a little iffy when we traded him last summer. I thought he could still put it together and be a serviceable player and as it turns out, he was terribad last season.

I can't imagine he's going to have a full time NHL career anymore.

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Wow has this guy really fallen off this quick in the past few years? He's still young and is an ok puck mover, there has to be at least 1 team that could play him in a sheltered third pairing role with a defensive D to cover up his mistakes. Or at least he could be a MAB type and come in for PP specialty.
The thing is, he's not SO good on offense that you would want to force feed him that kind of choice ice time. MAB had a really unique skillset that made him viable in the NHL. McBain is merely a strong puck mover. He's not going to go out and rack up PP points any faster than another puck mover who actually has a defensive game and work ethic.

Again with the Sanguinetti comparison, that was a guy we once picked up for the same reason that a team might want McBain. There's a certain wow-factor to guys like that, but at this level a defenseman has to either be elite at one thing or solid at everything.

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On some nights he was worse than Leino and Scott.

Just let that sink in. I would've been better and I can't skate

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Sad but true.

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Convert to forward
Came in thinking this! There's obviously some skill there and he is rather big. At least some time on forward could be the right thing for him to reinvent himself.

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His career track says KHL to me. He's still young but he's not AHL development young. He's too experienced to seem so raw in his game. He reminds me a lot of Bobby Sanguinetti, another guy with skill who just couldn't defend at the NHL level.

If he were to ever maximize his talent he'd be a fine player, but that seems rather unlikely now.
Pretty much this.

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Convert to forward

I mentioned this last year on buffalo boards that he should move up to forward because he seems to have some offensive skills and has a reasonable size.

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Europe is my guess. Nothing against the guy personally, but I watch most Sabres games, and he just cannot play defense. Seems like the problem is between the ears.

I also suggested converting him to forward because his biggest asset is his shot, but I have to think our management considered that a bunch last season before non-tendering him.

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He was just as bad for Carolina during the lockout year, really.

There's some offseason conditioning concerns. Two years in a row in Carolina it was an issue, and the same with the team in Finland he went to during the lockout. Could be a legitimately solid PMD if he puts it all together, and he had some flashes of brilliance playing with Pitkanen while in Carolina.

Having to be a camp invite somewhere or having to sign a contract in Europe would hopefully be a huge wake-up call to the guy, because he definitely has the talent to be a player.
That's weird because his Dad runs an off ice hockey training facility as well as three rinks and a bunch of training programs.

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Europe is my guess. Nothing against the guy personally, but I watch most Sabres games, and he just cannot play defense. Seems like the problem is between the ears.

I also suggested converting him to forward because his biggest asset is his shot, but I have to think our management considered that a bunch last season before non-tendering him.
Europe sounds like a pretty safe bet.

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