Who Was More Impressive??? Comrie,Hemsky, or Schremp???
With Schremp doing very well so far, I was just wondering for all of those who have seen these 3 at camp before their rookie seasons (assuming that Schremp will make the team), who would you consider to have been the most impressive???
Tell me you didn't get this idea from my last post in the 'Schremps attitude problem thread' j/k
I gotta go with Schremp. If for no other reason the fact that he seems to be a bonafide finisher (with a little flair)....something this team hasn't had for a number of years now.
Honestly, I've thought of Schremp as a better prospect than Hemsky was, although that wasn't or maybe still isn't a popular idea. The fact is that these 3 have been our 3 best rookies by far in the last 5 years, so why not stack them up against eachother???
Honestly, I've thought of Schremp as a better prospect than Hemsky was, although that wasn't or maybe still isn't a popular idea. The fact is that these 3 have been our 3 best rookies by far in the last 5 years, so why not stack them up against eachother???
Hey..it's a good idea for a poll...I am all for it.
Having said that, it must be a tough choice Byran....I figured that must be the reason you haven't voted yet.
Hey..it's a good idea for a poll...I am all for it.
Having said that, it must be a tough choice Byran....I figured that must be the reason you haven't voted yet.
Unfortunately I haven't seen any of them at those respective camps, so I feel that it would be a bad decision on my part to vote considering that fact. Of course if you gave me permission I'd vote for Schremp , although Comrie sure lit a fire as well.
my choice is Jason Arnott, oh wait you don't have Arnie in your list
Sorry, maybe there should be an all-time Oiler Rookie camp poll??? My thought was to get our 3 most impressive rookies of the past 5 years or so. Of course we could add Paul Comrie to the all-time list!!!
I still fell Hemsky has the highest ceiling talent-wise. Comrie's lack of a shot, IMO, eliminates him from the compition. I basicly use Hemsky's size as a tie breaker in his favour.
I believe the question is who was the most impressive in training camp? Comrie, Hemsky or Schremp? For those who voted Schremp - do you remember Comrie and Hemsky's respective camps?
Great question. I'm not going to vote because it's too soon to tell.
Hemsky didn't make the team his first camp (at 18) but almost did iirc, he stood out and a season later made the club (at 19, exactly where Schremp is now). That would probably give him an edge, but Schremp may make this team too.
Comrie doesn't really fit the other two, he was older (turned 20 in camp I beleive) so he should have played well and he did until bolting to the WHL around the U of A game (I stand to be corrected on that, my memory isn't great unless it's where I've hidden the beer).
A few things about Schremp. Much of what we've seen so far imo is a combination of skill set and opportunity. Nothing wrong with it, but it's always easier to get a job when the description matches your skills perfectly. I hope they play him a lot during camp, since he is clearly already the centerpiece from the procurement department for this camp.
I think Hemsky has more talent than Schremp, but Schremp's specific talents are better suited to the team needs. Part of it is because Hemsky isn't a shooter, which is kind of strange for a RW. Put a shooting C with him and say Ryan Smyth and that's a nice PP combination. You've got the digger (Smyth), the elite passer (Hemsky) and the rifleman (Schremp).
One more thing about Schremp. He seems to have a little of Pete Rose in him, but in a good way. LOTS of players with much more talent than Rose didn't make the bigs let alone stay in the show for decades. The biggest reason is that Rose had a one track mind when it came to baseball, it was his life and he wasn't going to be denied. I don't want to overstate it or suggest that Schremp is going to have a Pete Rose career, but reading his quotes and watching him being interviewed he seems well beyond his years, almost matter of fact. He seems to know he's good enough.
Great question. I'm not going to vote because it's too soon to tell.
Hemsky didn't make the team his first camp (at 18) but almost did iirc, he stood out and a season later made the club (at 19, exactly where Schremp is now). That would probably give him an edge, but Schremp may make this team too.
I think Schremp is ahead now. Interesting thing is Hemmer had now several pro years under his belt, Schremp is straight out of junior and looking better right now. The Hemmer growth curve hasn't been swift.
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I think Hemsky has more talent than Schremp, but Schremp's specific talents are better suited to the team needs. Part of it is because Hemsky isn't a shooter, which is kind of strange for a RW. Put a shooting C with him and say Ryan Smyth and that's a nice PP combination. You've got the digger (Smyth), the elite passer (Hemsky) and the rifleman (Schremp).
I'd agree that Hemsky is more talented but theres a certain amount of brashness required for it to be consistently visable. Both Schremp and Comrie were never shy to try out their moves. With Hemsky one gets the sense he's as nervous as a 15 yr old moving in for that 1st kiss. Hey he could kiss like Valentino but without the verve hes getting less chances.
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One more thing about Schremp. He seems to have a little of Pete Rose in him, but in a good way. LOTS of players with much more talent than Rose didn't make the bigs let alone stay in the show for decades. The biggest reason is that Rose had a one track mind when it came to baseball, it was his life and he wasn't going to be denied. I don't want to overstate it or suggest that Schremp is going to have a Pete Rose career, but reading his quotes and watching him being interviewed he seems well beyond his years, almost matter of fact. He seems to know he's good enough.
That kind of attitude can go a long way.
Agreed that Schremp has hockey firmly coursing through his veins and that he knows its his life. The personality part though is integral. The brashness is requisite for most anybody thats going to be into a "go to" or Star role. If you don't have it you end up being Dennis Sobchuk.
I see Shremp more emulating the Neil Young "Don't be Denied" motto. Love that song!
Does anybody remember the Schremp quotes where he said he was always passionate about the glory Oil? That he went to sleep with oil logos dancing in his head? I believed it then and believe it more now. Schremps gonna make us all believers!
well if i was to rank them on pure skill it would go: hemsky >> schremp > comrie
thats how much i think of hemskys skill, its really all-world when he uses it properly..... hemsky is capable of doing things that only a handfull of players in the world can also do, he just doesnt do it often enough, or consistent enough yet, and he may never do it very consistantly ..... it was apparent from the very first game i saw hemsky play in that he had the chance to be very very special, and im still waiting for that crop to come in..... no other player has ever shown me flashes of brilliance that were so exciting that i was able to almost completely overlook the many many terrible games inbetween
with comrie, he had the ability to do good things, but in a different way.... it was again apparent that he had skill, but it was a skill of being at the right place at the right time.... almost like a smaller version of andrechuk (always spell his name wrong) around the goal mouth.... comrie very rarely made a pass that brought you our of your seat, and really only had that one toe drag move that he tried all the time..... a very sound player with good speed, but he didnt do anything that couldnt be replicated by many other players in the league
schremp is different than either..... his only real "elite status" weapon that ive been able to notice is his shot (although one could argue that if you had to pick only one skill to have, a world class shot would be high on the list)..... his passing and puck handling abilitys are quite good, but i would not consider them to be of a special nature, and definitly not in the class of hemskys..... he is not terribly fast, and he will not win any selkes.... but as others have mentioned, he seems to have this mind set that will not allow him to fail..... i often worry that hemsky doesnt train hard enough, or doesnt listen to coaches; i used to worry that comrie was a guy that put himself ahead of the team, and i simply dont have these worries with schremp, despite his reputation of having an attitude problem..... it seems to me, that if macT told schremp he had to *only* eat raw onions (raw onions being the meal of choice for NHL snipers of course), shortly after this you would not want to be talking to schremp ...... he seems to "want it" more than the other two..... now some of this might just be his rookie aspirations coming out, and it may all change once he is in the NHL, but something tells me it wont
so to finally answer the question as to which one i was most impressed with.... the answer is hemsky, as he does things other simply cant do..... but i've been very impressed with schremps attitude (which almost sounds weird saying)
Again people this is their rookie seasons camp, so Hemsky's 19 year old camp, and the camp before Comrie left for the WHL and then got signed in December. That is the poll question, as far as skill goes, IMO Hemsky is faster and more of a breakaway threat, but IMO Schremp has a lot more drive, a much better work ethic, and a far superior shot. Hopefully Hemsky will feed off of Robbie's determination. Hopefully Hemsky will progress like Robbie is now, and they could form a great 1-2 punch for years to come!!!
i voted all even because I can only go on 2nd hand reports. What I do remember is that all three showed that they were fantastic. And everyone around the team, media and fans were greatly excited However Robbie Schremp has me the most excited just because his skills are tailored to this team. Comrie was and is a good palyer but he is a player more of an opportunistic player that either Hemsky or Schremp. If Hemsky could bottle some of Robbie's confidence he would be such a fantastic player. Do you guys remember that Toronto - Edmonton game where Hemsky was making defenseman look absolutely ridiculous. I keep waiting for another game like that and I just haven't seen it. Robbie is the exact opposite of Hemsky, Robbie's got delusions of grandeur that just might become a self fufilling prophecy. The kid thinks he can do it all thus he can do it all.
A few things about Schremp. Much of what we've seen so far imo is a combination of skill set and opportunity. Nothing wrong with it, but it's always easier to get a job when the description matches your skills perfectly. I hope they play him a lot during camp, since he is clearly already the centerpiece from the procurement department for this camp.
I think Hemsky has more talent than Schremp, but Schremp's specific talents are better suited to the team needs. Part of it is because Hemsky isn't a shooter, which is kind of strange for a RW. Put a shooting C with him and say Ryan Smyth and that's a nice PP combination. You've got the digger (Smyth), the elite passer (Hemsky) and the rifleman (Schremp).
Totally agree that line could be able to do it all. I'd love to see it in a powerplay situation sometime during the preseason.
Robbie is the exact opposite of Hemsky, Robbie's got delusions of grandeur that just might become a self fufilling prophecy. The kid thinks he can do it all thus he can do it all.
Exactly, all of the talk about Robbie being cocky and having attitude issues sure looks stupid now. Especially the cockiness IMO. It's his high level of confidence and his will to be the best that has propelled him to where he is today. The kid will not take no for an answer, and IMO the worst thing that the Oilers could do right now would be to send him down if he keeps up this level of play. The guy made great strides between the WJC's and the OHL play-offs and Memorial Cup. This guy IMO will be a leader on this team, because he will back it up on the ice where it matters the most.
I think Hemsky has more talent than Schremp, but Schremp's specific talents are better suited to the team needs. Part of it is because Hemsky isn't a shooter, which is kind of strange for a RW. Put a shooting C with him and say Ryan Smyth and that's a nice PP combination. You've got the digger (Smyth), the elite passer (Hemsky) and the rifleman (Schremp).
Don't downplay Schremp's passing ability!!! He's as good of a passer as anyone on our team right now IMO. If Hemsky shoots more, Schremp and Hemsky would be a great combination. Schremp might force Hemsky to shoot more if he sets him up with passes like the one Smyth bobbled the other night!!! I agree though, that would be a great line!!! However I'd probably do this instead...
Don't downplay Schremp's passing ability!!! He's as good of a passer as anyone on our team right now IMO.
Hemsky is the better passer. Hemsky is an AMAZING passer. Smyth is an exceptional passer now, didn't used to be but he's developed into a quality puck handler. Pronger is a terrific passer.
Schremp is good, but he hasn't played an NHL game yet. Every rookie I've ever seen sends a bomb across the middle, I'm sure Schremp will too.
Hemsky is the better passer. Hemsky is an AMAZING passer. Smyth is an exceptional passer now, didn't used to be but he's developed into a quality puck handler. Pronger is a terrific passer.
Schremp is good, but he hasn't played an NHL game yet. Every rookie I've ever seen sends a bomb across the middle, I'm sure Schremp will too.
lol. I've always liked Horcoff and remember being at a game a couple of years ago when he was at his own blueline up against the boards and sent a 5 foot pass towards Cross with an opponent bearing down. Opponent gets the puck and goes in on goal and I don't remember if he scored or not but I think I heard LMHF #1 say a bad word.
Exactly, all of the talk about Robbie being cocky and having attitude issues sure looks stupid now. Especially the cockiness IMO. It's his high level of confidence and his will to be the best that has propelled him to where he is today. The kid will not take no for an answer, and IMO the worst thing that the Oilers could do right now would be to send him down if he keeps up this level of play. The guy made great strides between the WJC's and the OHL play-offs and Memorial Cup. This guy IMO will be a leader on this team, because he will back it up on the ice where it matters the most.
I agree totally!
I watched Robbie scrimage in rookie camp and was very impressed with his obvious level of leadership on the ice. I figured once he was playing with the oil that quality would deminish with the higher level of play and intimidation. But was I wrong! Robbie looked better and more confident then most the seasoned players at both the Joey Moss Cup and the game against Calgary. I don't think its everyday that a team gets a rookie kid to try out and play to this capacity. IMO its not even close, Schremp all the way.
j/k
, although Comrie sure lit a fire as well.
