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10-03-2005, 09:47 PM
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OT Big Knicks trade looks to be going down

Tim Thomas
Mike Sweetney
2 draft picks
for
Eddie Curry and Antonio Davis.

Knicks have built a real quality group of young guys.
Curry, Ariza, Lee, Nate Rob, Channing Frye, Q Rich, Jcraw, and even Marbury is only 28

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does this meen that curry has been cleared to play?

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Love to get Curry, but we have to give up two picks AND take Antonio Davis? <sigh>

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Tim Thomas
Mike Sweetney
2 draft picks
for
Eddie Curry and Antonio Davis.

Knicks have built a real quality group of young guys.
Curry, Ariza, Lee, Nate Rob, Channing Frye, Q Rich, Jcraw, and even Marbury is only 28

where did u get that link from?

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where did u get that link from?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2180298

Maybe we also got some picks? Not clear. The roster is STILL too crowded, but I take Curry for Thomas and Sweetney any day. (I love Sweets, but he's short and slow and unsuited to the running game - and of course we have a TON of undersized power forwards.) Perhaps Davis goes to some other team looking for a veteran PF - supposedly Lee really impressed in the summer league.

What does this mean for Frye with James also there? Actually, I have a feeling that Jerome is the one who pines away at $5MM per.

Note that according to the article, Eddy never took the test, but was cleared by several prominent cardiologists.

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10-03-2005, 10:21 PM
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The ESPN article claims draft picks were exchanged. I'm sure in either case they are lottery protected. Giving up Sweetney was a given, once Frye and Lee were drafted, and James was brought on board. Isiah can accumulate talent, but can he put a T-E-A-M together? OTOH, Curry is a better front court player than anyone currently on the Knicks' roster.

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jerome james must be crying tonight

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nice move by the Knicks....
Curry is a guy ive wanted the Celts to get for 2 years,i think w/ a change of scenery he can have a Jermaine O'niel like break out.

Lets just hope his heart problems are behind him.

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Lets just hope his heart problems are behind him.
Ditto

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i dont know a single name in this thread... and i couldnt be happier

/hasn't watched basketball since the mid 90's

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nice move by the Knicks....
Curry is a guy ive wanted the Celts to get for 2 years,i think w/ a change of scenery he can have a Jermaine O'niel like break out.

Lets just hope his heart problems are behind him.

LMAO that Home Alone picture is the best.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2180298

What does this mean for Frye with James also there? Actually, I have a feeling that Jerome is the one who pines away at $5MM per.

Note that according to the article, Eddy never took the test, but was cleared by several prominent cardiologists.
actually Frye is a true power foward so i imagine that he be playing a little bit of both this year but eventually if he pans and develops into a good player he will probably be a power foward (which works out because he is the perfect power foward size instead of being an undersized center)

so james will probably at least start the season as the back up center

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so james will probably at least start the season as the back up center
with a possibility at starting if curry is not healthy

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Interesting move by Curry denying the DNA test.

Chicago told him if he failed the test, they'd pay him $400,000 a year for the next 50 years. They just didn't want to see him collapse and die on the court.

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10-04-2005, 03:36 AM
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haha - yeah nice home alone picture - very funny! and who cares about the knicks - they have clueless GM's every year - they FINALLY got a real coach - now they need a REAL GM

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Interesting move by Curry denying the DNA test.

Chicago told him if he failed the test, they'd pay him $400,000 a year for the next 50 years. They just didn't want to see him collapse and die on the court.
Thats 20 million bucks right there.. What if Curry has to retiere next year because of heart problems. I think Curry's was crazy not to take the test. He can't get his contract insured, what if he has to retiere in a year? Or even worse drops dead on the court? I doubt that even Zeke is stupid enough to give Curry a guarenteed long-term deal. I think the kid is gambling with his life and it's a scary situation. If it were me I would want to be 100% sure. I mean think about it:

Worst case scenario with DNA-test: Eddy fails the test, is forced to give up basketball. But it saves his life and he lives a long and happy life with financial security.

Worst case scenario without test: Eddy dies during a game or practice while still in his early twenties.

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wow, i have no idea who anyone is in this thread...basketball really sucks. It's hockey season boys

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Wasn't there someone with heart trouble who died in the NFL this year? I guess you cant blame Isiah Thomas for anything he's trying to do - I mean GM's get fired if they dont win so he could careless what it takes to get to the playoffs as long as he keeps his job

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Love to get Curry, but we have to give up two picks AND take Antonio Davis? <sigh>
um so? lol in the NBA picks are not that valuable

we have to take on Davis for cap reasons

i don't like Isiah but he ***** the bulls on this one

Sweetney's the only real value we gave up but we have so much else to counter that

I am not a huge fan of Curry but with what we gave up, this deal is very favorable

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Interesting move by Curry denying the DNA test.

Chicago told him if he failed the test, they'd pay him $400,000 a year for the next 50 years. They just didn't want to see him collapse and die on the court.
didn't see that, yeah that is a really stupid move by Curry - depending on how serious his condition is

then again, he is getting 60-70 mil that he wouldn't have gotten had he failed the test

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10-04-2005, 09:18 AM
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The deal is contingent on Curry passing a boatload of heart tests. The picks are reportedly a protected #1 and two 2nd round picks which in the nba are usually just throwins. Antonio Davis will be reportedly be waived.I would keep davis for a year. We can use the vet leadership.

I have wanted Curry for 2 years and think that its a very good move for TT and Sweets. Sweets had skills but his body and height will always hold him back from being a starter. TT was gone no matter what based on his contract. I'm not an Isiah fan at all but I do have to give the guy his due. He has taken a very bad and very old team and made them a very young team. Will they still be bad? Time will tell but they have a ton of potential now.

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um so? lol in the NBA picks are not that valuable
Disagree - depends on the pick and the year. Lottery picks are always worth something and in good years like last year so are later picks. Apparently, the Bulls wanted David Lee (whom we took with the last pick in the 1st round) instead of Sweetney. Picks in hoops are AT LEAST as valuable as they are in hockey.

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we have to take on Davis for cap reasons
Understood. There's something in the Times about the Bulls then wanting us to waive him so they can resign him - maybe this is why there's still discussion over the picks

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i don't like Isiah but he ***** the bulls on this one
I actually do kinda like Isiah - I feel like the media's been after him since day one and in fact he's done a pretty good job of acquiring talent starting from an awful salary cap position. The one guy I'm NOT crazy about is actually Stephon for all of his talent. Let's see how he does under Larry though.

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Sweetney's the only real value we gave up but we have so much else to counter that
Yeah - especially if Frye's going to swich over to the 4 as someone else intimated.

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I am not a huge fan of Curry but with what we gave up, this deal is very favorable
Gotta take the risk, I agree. Especially if your doctors are giving you the okay.

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10-04-2005, 09:38 AM
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i'd be surprised if the knicks were a lottery team, i think they are mid-teens

despite all that, we have 2 firsts, almost assuredly will have traded a protected lottery pick so i'm not too concerned

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jerome james must be crying tonight
are you kidding? he got his money, a lot more then he probably ever could have imagine and now he won't have any pressure on him

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Funny how Lee (the last pick in the first round) might've been the deal breaker.

Watched him in the Vegas summer league. Tough, smart player who gets the most out of his talent: The Anti-Tim Thomas.

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