The poster said that Bertuzzi would have been the highest paid Canuck....so that would mean more than 5 mil, since Nazzy is making that amount currently
I'm thinking Burke will wanna sign him to a base salary of around 5 million with bonuses when he reaches landmarks like, 50 goals, 100 points, if they make the playoffs, if they win the cup, etc.
I could see Bertuzzi signing a deal similar to Jovo's, but for more money. Something like $5.5 mil the first year, $6.5 the second, and $7.5 mil the 3rd.
I could see Bertuzzi signing a deal similar to Jovo's, but for more money. Something like $5.5 mil the first year, $6.5 the second, and $7.5 mil the 3rd.
I have no problem with that. Bert is worth that much, and he has done it and improve upon it 3 years in a row.. mind you, Iginla only had 1 big season, the previous ones were mediocore, including last year. and hemaking 6.5M!
well.. I guess anything is a bargrain when we have Holik making $9M...
I have no problem with that. Bert is worth that much, and he has done it and improve upon it 3 years in a row.. mind you, Iginla only had 1 big season, the previous ones were mediocore, including last year. and hemaking 6.5M!
well.. I guess anything is a bargrain when we have Holik making $9M...
Just pointing out that Iginla steadily improved each year until he broke out. He also took home some very notable trophies, that Bertuzzi has yet to claim.
Add in the fact that last season he was injured for the first half, and went on to score 20 in 20 (or something to that effect) in the second half of the season. Barring injuries last year, he would have been up there with Bertuzzi and Naslund.
Bertuzzi's been a bargain over the past couple years, so I guess I can't complain if he ends up getting some contract that pays him huge bucks.
But let's face it, if his demands get too greedy for Brian Burke, Burke is stubborn enough to ship him out of town. I'd consider Brian Burke to be a good negotiator who strikes fair contracts (if someone being paid at least $250 K to provide entertainment can be considered fair), but he's stubborn and won't give a player much more than he thinks he's worth. It's a little soon to start predicting things and I know I'll probably get criticized for bringing this up, but that's the way the NHL works nowadays. Canadian teams have to ship away their high-priced stars for younger, cheaper talent quite often nowadays. That's reality, and while we might get Bertuzzi re-signed, we also might have to move him. Let's cross our fingers and hope we can find a way to keep him, because he's a special player. No one else in the NHL is like him really.
Unfortunately, i think most of you are being too optimistic. I think every interview i've seen with Bertuzzi regarding his contract status, he always manages to slip in the phrase "I will honor my contract for this year". That's not a good thing. This guy wants money. He likes Vancouver, but he'd have no problem going somewhere else.
Despite the reality of salaries and the way they're going down, Bertuzzi is an exception because he's a top player. I'm thinking he wants Bill Guerin money, and Burke should realize he's in a no win position and just give it to him. Burke knows well enough that this could cost him his job if it doesn't work out right.
My prediction is that Bertuzzi gets 16 mil for 2 years. Probably 7.5 & 8.5
Unfortunately, i think most of you are being too optimistic. I think every interview i've seen with Bertuzzi regarding his contract status, he always manages to slip in the phrase "I will honor my contract for this year". That's not a good thing. This guy wants money. He likes Vancouver, but he'd have no problem going somewhere else.
Despite the reality of salaries and the way they're going down, Bertuzzi is an exception because he's a top player. I'm thinking he wants Bill Guerin money, and Burke should realize he's in a no win position and just give it to him. Burke knows well enough that this could cost him his job if it doesn't work out right.
My prediction is that Bertuzzi gets 16 mil for 2 years. Probably 7.5 & 8.5
After 2 years, then Bertuzzi becomes a UFA???
I'd like to see the deal for more than 2 years, preferably at least 3-4 years that Jovo/Linden signed..
I'd like to see the deal for more than 2 years, preferably at least 3-4 years that Jovo/Linden signed..
Unrestricted free agency is like winning the Stanley Cup for Bertuzzi and his agent. He wants money, he's greedy.... everyone can see that. Too bad.... he's one heck of a player.
Unrestricted free agency is like winning the Stanley Cup for Bertuzzi and his agent. He wants money, he's greedy.... everyone can see that. Too bad.... he's one heck of a player.
Atleast he's made a counter offer to the 5.5 million dollar offer the Canucks have made, I might be wrong but usually if a counter offer is being made then they are probably fairly close.
No, there's no source for OYLer's claim. According to this mornings Vancouver Sun, the Canucks have been mulling over a counter-proposal put forth by his agent, Pat Morris. Bertuzzi is looking for something in the 6.5 to $7 million range (the contract cited is Pavol Demitra, then Morris says "you wouldn't trade Bertuzzi straight up for Demitra, would you?")
No, there's no source for OYLer's claim. According to this mornings Vancouver Sun, the Canucks have been mulling over a counter-proposal put forth by his agent, Pat Morris. Bertuzzi is looking for something in the 6.5 to $7 million range (the contract cited is Pavol Demitra, then Morris says "you wouldn't trade Bertuzzi straight up for Demitra, would you?")
I would deal Bertuzzi straight up for Joe Thornton... does that mean that Bertuzzi and Thornton should get about the same?
I think that Bertuzzi should get around $6-6.5 mill a year... and if the Canucks initial offer is $5.5 mill, then he'll get that ($6+mill)... if they're only $1mill apart on such a big deal, I don't see it being too hard to comprimise...
the question is what's the length here?? and how much of the deal has bonuses in it, or on top of it?
Bertuzzi will either want a short term deal if they comprimise on lower $$, or a longer term deal, he'll want more money... I think that the length of the deal is going to be the bigger sticking point than the $$ involved.
Realistically, unless Burke has some dirty pictures of Bert with a farm animal or something, there's no way Bertuzzi will be making less than 7 million per by the time he has a contract negotiated.
Hoping for anything under 7 is pretty much futile.
Realistically, unless Burke has some dirty pictures of Bert with a farm animal or something, there's no way Bertuzzi will be making less than 7 million per by the time he has a contract negotiated.
Hoping for anything under 7 is pretty much futile.
if the details so far presented are true, then it's not so much of a stretch to expect less than $7mill...
but are these two details correct?:
1) the canucks first offer is for $5.5 mill
2) Morris and Bert countered with their first counter offer at $6.5-7mill
if these two points are true, then you can bet that as the negotiations continue they will settle at a common ground between those two figures... If Morris wanted at least $7mill for Bert, his first counter wouldn't have been for that amount (possibly less)... he would have countered around $7.5-8 and then negotiated down.
I think that the status of the CBA has a lot to do with this too... really it's up to Bert if he wants to take the risk and not have a new contract until the new CBA is out... and it is a risk for him, as much as it's for the Canucks to wait until then...
that's why I doubt you see comparisons to Geurin type contracts... much more reasonable to expect Iginla's contract as a comparison - although he was coming off an Art Ross and Lester season as well when he got that deal, and has put up his numbers at a younger age and without a superstar like Naslund.
Bert's counter offer is probably $11,000,000.00 USD. HE WANTS THE MONEY FORSBERG GETS WITH BONUSES FACTORED IN.
a big difference between Bertuzzi and Forsberg. Forsberg has 2 stanley cup rings and is a huge playoff performer....Bertuzzi has no cups and hasn't stepped it up in the playoffs yet.
