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Lou's next big move - your prediction

What do you think will be Lou's next big move? Do you think it will be in acquiring a big 1st line Center? Will it be a big winger or maybe another speedster? Yet another grinder? Will he surprise us and go for youth? What do you think?

My pick is that Lou will look at Keith Primeau. He will likely be shooting for a guy similar to him. I hope at least. If we keep winning though Lou won't do a damn thing.

Anyway it's Lou so he is unpredictable.

What are your thoughts/picks?

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We have a serious need for a legitimate 1st line center with size and faceoff skills as well as more scoring punch on the wing. Scott Gomez could fetch us a pretty good goal scorer right now if Lou decides to be patient with Patrik Elias for a bit longer. Martin Havlat would make me a very happy Devils fan. Mach 9 and Jeff Friesen on the same line would be a lethal dose of speed and scoring from both sides.

 
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I literally would have a stiffy if Lou snagged Havlat. Sorry, but i would. hahaha.

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I literally would have a stiffy if Lou snagged Havlat. Sorry, but i would. hahaha.
So would I, but Lou doesn't work miracles.

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You have to think with all these grinders, and so many young guys ready to come up, you just gotta think a deal is pending right? Then again we all thought that with an overload of PP d-men in Tvo, Rafi and Nieds.

I would love Lou if he got Gaborik, Comrie or Havlat. That would be unreal. I would go out and buy any one of their jerseys.

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My pick is that Lou will look at Keith Primeau. He will likely be shooting for a guy similar to him. I hope at least. If we keep winning though Lou won't do a damn thing.

Anyway it's Lou so he is unpredictable.

What are your thoughts/picks?

No chance that the Flyers will deal Primeau to the Devils. Lou would have to seriously overpay to get him.

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The Devils most clearly need a #1 center, someone who can win faceoffs and contribute on offense in all factors.

That being said, I think Lou will make a deal for, say, Mike Johnson.

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No chance that the Flyers will deal Primeau to the Devils. Lou would have to seriously overpay to get him.
Yea you're probably right. I was kinda hoping he'd go after someone similar to him though, but he seems prototypical kinda player we need now. If we have to overpay, forget it then.

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No chance that the Flyers will deal Primeau to the Devils. Lou would have to seriously overpay to get him.
I think he meant a player similar to him, not him in particular. Lou doesn't do deals within the conference much less the same division

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I heard Lou is actively pursuing Phil Esposito.
Think I'm kidding???

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I heard Lou is actively persuing Phil Esposito.
Think I'm kidding???
Phil Esposito!? No way! I thought Lou was trying to make a deal for Gilbert Perreault!

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I heard Lou is actively persuing Phil Esposito.
Think I'm kidding???
Your idea to bring in Adam Oates for short money is sounding better and better by the day. Anyone have his cell phone number?

 
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No chance that the Flyers will deal Primeau to the Devils. Lou would have to seriously overpay to get him.
Primeau is the one big center in the league I want absolutely no part of. He's pretty much been a loser his whole career. He leaves Detroit, they win the cup. He leaves Carolina, they go to the finals. When he leaves Philly they too will win the cup......err scratch that as that won't ever happen; but you get my point.

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Even more than Center I really don't like the Devils at RW.

RW: Langenbrunner, Marshall, Gionta, Stevenson

C: Gomez, Madden, Larionov, Rupp, Rasmusen

From the looks of that to me the Center position is way stronger the RW.



In my opinion the greater needs are:

1. Right Wing 1a/2. 5th Defensmen 3. an Enforcer 4. Faceoff winning Centermen

In 1995 the Dev's got by with the Strength of thier wings. They never really had a number #1 center ( Broten and Carpenter were hardly top notch centermen). Last years team and this years are very simuliar in that regard.

Having 4 good wingers on your 1 and 2 lines; Elias and Friesen on the Left and Langenbrunner and somebody else on the right makes the lack of the center easier to deal with.

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I'm still surprised that Lou took Igor over Adam Oates. Who in my opinion...would have been more beneficial to the Devils. Especially on face-offs.

Overall, 3 things need to happen this season:

Stevenson needs to be healthy. End of sentence. By far, the most expendable player on the team.

Gomez needs to pick up his game. If Foster can continue to stay healthy and play well in Albany and Gomer's numbers stay stagnate, he would make a nice trade piece come the deadline.

Elias in my mind...needs to play with more passion. He has to pick up his game. If he plays in the regular season like he's playing now in the preseason, I'd send him packing with one/both of the above players and make a blockbuster trade for a marquee player or a fill a void and grab some draft picks for next season.

We had a good number of players step up to the challenge in training camp (Pihlman, Suglobov, Pikkarainen, Foster, Berglund, Bicek) to have any slackers or "content" players on the team.

Thus, Stevenson, Gomez and Elias are the three to watch for possible trades this year.

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I agree with the RW post. Lou has still yet to adequately replace AlMo after all this time. A RW sniper is key to take pressure off the 1st line (ie Elias) to carry the load.

That being said, a bonafide #1 C wouldn't suck either. Oates can still come here. This is a traditional Lou tactic: wait until the season is about to start to make a move. Guys are dying to play (we hope in Oates' case) and may take less $$ just to do so.

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I would love for Lou to sign Oates. But let's give Larionov a chance first.
Also, I think that Suglobov could be our sniper come Christmas-time. Just give him some time in Albany to get used to the NHL style of play and he could be awesome.

Elias--Larionov--Suglobov
Friesen--Gomez--Langenbrunner
Pandolfo--Madden--Marshall/Gionta
Brylin--Rupp--Gionta/Marshall
Rasmussen, Bicek, Berglund, Stevenson?

Not a bad group of forwards. Lou could package Stevenson and Bicek with Adrian Foster and possibly get a Mike Comrie, or someone along those lines. Now who has a big and talented center they want to get rid of?

Oh yeah, Joe Thornton!

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Oh yeah, Joe Thornton!
You wont believe the oversized Elvis sideburns he's sporting this year. Holy smokes. He's taking in the Red Sox game against Oakland right now at Fenway Park. Those things need to be ditched faster then the lame local chants of "Cowboy Up"

 
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Even more than Center I really don't like the Devils at RW.

RW: Langenbrunner, Marshall, Gionta, Stevenson

C: Gomez, Madden, Larionov, Rupp, Rasmusen

From the looks of that to me the Center position is way stronger the RW.



In my opinion the greater needs are:

1. Right Wing 1a/2. 5th Defensmen 3. an Enforcer 4. Faceoff winning Centermen

In 1995 the Dev's got by with the Strength of thier wings. They never really had a number #1 center ( Broten and Carpenter were hardly top notch centermen). Last years team and this years are very simuliar in that regard.

Having 4 good wingers on your 1 and 2 lines; Elias and Friesen on the Left and Langenbrunner and somebody else on the right makes the lack of the center easier to deal with.

Well said Jim. We still have a long ways to go in coming anywhere close to competing with the incredible depth and strength Ottawa has running on the right side even with Havlat as a holdout. Should be this teams top priority right now imo. Marshall, Gionta, and Stevenson won't bring much in terms of goal scoring unless things radically change.

 
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I'm still surprised that Lou took Igor over Adam Oates. Who in my opinion...would have been more beneficial to the Devils. Especially on face-offs.
I think its a safe assumption on our part that Adam Oates is still adamant about not dropping his salary to the level other players in his situation have done just to continue playing. He has a healthy opinion of himself and probably would have a difficult time swallowing his pride to this degree. Retirement will probably be the easier road for him to take knowing full well he still has the skills to compete in this league and his services would be quite valuable to most teams without having to take such a huge salary cut in the process.

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Thus, Stevenson, Gomez and Elias are the three to watch for possible trades this year.
I can see Brian Gionta also being traded this season despite everything solid he brings in the form of hustle, work ethic, attitude, battling in the corners etc... Much as I love watching him work his ass night after night, he could easily wind up on the list of guys moved to shore up more pressing team weaknesses here. Should be a healthy market for a guy with his intangibles despite his lack of size.

 
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Rob Ray and Steve Thomas are still available.:p

edit: I forgot Dan Bylsma.

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I don't see Lou getting involved with any holdouts, but if he did, I wouldn't mind giving Dupuis a shot. I think he would flourish under Burns.He could open up the crease for less cash and miles than Primeau. I am not sure who I would give up for him.

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I think that LOU will go after a big center, such as Chris Gratton, or maybe a guy like Jan Hrdina

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He will go after a sniper such as Havlat he could be a perfect fit with Elias and Gomer/Rupp

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I think that LOU will go after a big center, such as Chris Gratton, or maybe a guy like Jan Hrdina

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He will go after a sniper such as Havlat he could be a perfect fit with Elias and Gomer/Rupp
Cue Svieglar....

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If a trade centering around Comrie and Gomez was discussed, who/what would have to be added to make it equitable? I would love to see Comrie in black and red...

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