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10-10-2005, 11:02 PM
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What's up with Mario?

hey
im not trolling or anything here, just a big mario fan.
wondering whats up with him this season, only 2 pts in 4 games and not logging alot of PP time tonight... maybe injury or not really wanting to play? maybe he will bounce back, im sure he will

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10-10-2005, 11:11 PM
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4 games in and Mario has no assist. A healthy Mario and not one assist.

Tonight against Buffalo he was putrid.

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10-10-2005, 11:15 PM
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He's looked pretty fluid to me, but I couldn't watch tonight's game.

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He's looked pretty fluid to me, but I couldn't watch tonight's game.
It wasn't the skating that was the problem. It was the concentration.
Me think Mario is getting tired from playing 4 straight games.

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10-10-2005, 11:19 PM
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He never plays well in Buffalo for whatever reason.

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personally i think the penguins lack of depth at center has hurt lemieux, it's forced him to be at that position.

also, crosby clicked with two guys already very fimiliar with each other (recchi and leclair from their philadelphia days) so that left basically no other alternative for the big guy but to center malone and palffy.

a line of lemieux-crosby-recchi might be more beneficial for mario, but for the team it seems to be better the way it's broken up now.

but i don't think anyone in their right mind could argue against lemieux's vision, anticipation of the play or his passing touch....it's all clearly there. the numbers might not show it after just 4 games, but over time it will be there, assuming he stays healthy.

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10-11-2005, 01:58 AM
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I barely noticed him tonight. I am sure though that he will show up soon and have a 4 point night or something. He can rack them up pretty fast when he gets on a role.

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10-11-2005, 02:06 AM
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in the past couple years, lemieux's been a pass first player. he is in great shape though, and his legs are under him, so he's always a threat when on the ice to setup a goal or score one himself. anything could happen with his back or hip, but for the time being he's one of the most effective players the penguins have. but IMO he'd be more effective on the wing.

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10-11-2005, 10:12 AM
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I think he's fine. Maybe playing center is taking it toll. I dunno, he'll get it going

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10-11-2005, 10:25 AM
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He does seem to glide rather than skate.

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10-11-2005, 11:50 AM
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Crosby and Lemieux

What I dont understand that through 4 games of having trouble scoring goals we have not seen the likes of this sort of combo:

Lemieux - Crosby - Kolstov

Palffy - Malone - Rhecci

I mean Crosby and Mario on the same line is like having the oppritunity for Jagr and Lemieux again and not taking it haha

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10-11-2005, 12:15 PM
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I would switch the lines a bit.

Try Talbot on the first line.

Lemieux - Talbot - Malone
Recchi - Crosby - Palffy
LeClair - Pirjeta - Koltsov

I think these lines would do awesome.
Talbot never gives up on plays and plays well defensively...

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10-11-2005, 12:32 PM
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What I dont understand that through 4 games of having trouble scoring goals we have not seen the likes of this sort of combo:

Lemieux - Crosby - Kolstov

Palffy - Malone - Rhecci

I mean Crosby and Mario on the same line is like having the oppritunity for Jagr and Lemieux again and not taking it haha
Well the Crosby,Recchi, Palffy line looks perfect but if you could have 2
lines clicking it would be so much more potent.For one thing it's harder for
the opposing team to keep two good lines in check.So yes I was thinking the
same thing.Give it a try and you can always go back to Crosby,Recchi,Palffy.
Frankly I think Crosby is going to work well with any player with speed and reasonable hands.

I love Talbot.........but sorry........he's not a first line player.

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10-11-2005, 12:35 PM
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i too think they need to make a change with Line 1. Leave the Recchi line alone. Mario/Leclair/Malone are 3 slower players and they arent creating any space with their cemented shoes so far. Koltsov just seem to "get it" on that line yet

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Here's something nobody has mentioned yet.

He's 40 years old now.

Maybe he just doesn't have it in him anymore. I'm sure he's still capable of putting up some points here and there just from his immense hockey smarts, but maybe it's not realistic anymore to expect him to produce points game in and game out.

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10-11-2005, 01:03 PM
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You guys do realize that in the last two years he's played 10 nhl games and maybe 6(?) in the WCH, not to mention he's 40. He'll pick it up, he just has to get used to playing again, especially coming off 3 games in four days. He was probably just tired.

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10-11-2005, 01:08 PM
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I don't know why I didn't pick up on it before but I think it's a mistake to be using Lemieux for important defensive-zone draws the way Edzo has at times.

I mean, Jesus Christ, that should be a no-brainer.

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who is the pens #1 face off man?

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10-11-2005, 01:55 PM
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I love Talbot.........but sorry........he's not a first line player.
The whole concept of a "1st" line is so diffuse and confusing today.

Somebody has to do the dirty work, whether it's an experienced veteran or a rookie.

What makes Talbot "not a first line player"?

I've always considered that 2/3 players in the first line should be stars. The 3rd can be anyone really. As long as they work hard. Morrow-Modano-Guerin in Dallas comes to mind.

Look at Morrow's stats the last 4 years. Very good indeed.

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10-11-2005, 01:58 PM
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Talbot doesn't have the offensive skills to warrant twenty minutes of icetime. Simple as that.

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10-11-2005, 02:24 PM
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Talbot doesn't have the offensive skills to warrant twenty minutes of icetime. Simple as that.
Uhm, that's great. If you'd read my post once again maybe you can come up with a logic reply.

He doesn't need to. He'll do the defensive work of that line. That's why he's there. The *dirty* work.

3 stars / offensive guys on one line is bad if you ask me.

You need grit, playmaking and scoring one the same line to make it successful. Brendan Morrison is the last piece of the puzzle of Vancouver's top line, but he's far from having those offensive skills you're talking about. He does his job and automatically by forcing the puck over he gets on the board and sometimes adds in with a few beauties (like in 10 secs of those 20 minutes you mention.)

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So NO, it's *NOT* as simple as that. Your post is simple. One line, *several* words of bs.

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Mario has done so much for the Pens in 20 years, isn't it time the team does something for him?

Mario clearly thinks of himself as a LW nowadays. He should be the one benefiting from Crosby's presence. He could score 70 goals this season playing with Sid the Kid. It's time they helped Mario out, after all the times he has done the same for them.

By putting him on the other line at center with only Malone to help out offensively and a revolving door on the other side, that's not helping Mario out.

Let the man get the spoils for a change:

Lemieux-Crosby-Palffy

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Malone has been very quiet, especially for sombody that wanted more money this summer.

Crosby,Recchi,Palffy This line seemed to click against Buf.

The game is faster now without the grab a**. I think Mario age is catching up.

Buf avg age 25-29 and they looked very quick.

Fleury played great, hard to believe he was sent down. Where was the D at? not tackling the guy wacking at the puck in OT.

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10-11-2005, 03:10 PM
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Mario needs 184 points to tie Mark Messier.

Think he can do it? I hope not....

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10-11-2005, 03:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. kØUkLØs
I would switch the lines a bit.

Try Talbot on the first line.

Lemieux - Talbot - Malone
Recchi - Crosby - Palffy
LeClair - Pirjeta - Koltsov

I think these lines would do awesome.
Talbot never gives up on plays and plays well defensively...
I love that combo of lines. I was just saying the other day how Talbot has played well enough to be a #1 center. He's full of energy -- has better scoring touch then Koltsov, and goes hard to the net...he might be just what Mario needs alongside him.

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